South hams hunter 8,935 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Married dog breeder couple who broke animal welfare laws ordered to pay £400,000 | Daily Mail Online WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK Karl, 43, and Victoria Shellard, 40, forced canines to deliver back-back litters after setting... Apparently they dont like not knowing what your doing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,870 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 09:40, South hams hunter said: Married dog breeder couple who broke animal welfare laws ordered to pay £400,000 | Daily Mail Online WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK Karl, 43, and Victoria Shellard, 40, forced canines to deliver back-back litters after setting... Apparently they dont like not knowing what your doing Expand and you want us all chipped you plum take everything they want to now think how easy it would be if it’s numbers on a screen they can take when they feel like it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,829 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 11:01, sid g said: the main issue was they had no licence for the amount of breeding bitches they owned --- dogs were good pedigree pups healthy and kept in good conditions -- hardly your average puppy farm conditions , Expand The issue might have been tax-avoidance as they were hit with £400k POCA, it's always good to have a creative friendly accountant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 400k for being puddings, bet they were all over FB giving it the big one without the brains to get a good accountant like Mackem said. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,935 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 09:52, mC HULL said: and you want us all chipped you plum take everything they want to now think how easy it would be if it’s numbers on a screen they can take when they feel like it Expand I never said that at all Making stuff up again 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,935 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 11:24, mackem said: The issue might have been tax-avoidance as they were hit with £400k POCA, it's always good to have a creative friendly accountant Expand Has to be don't it, bet they're kicking themselves now 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,829 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 11:45, South hams hunter said: Has to be don't it, bet they're kicking themselves now Expand HMRC just want their place at the table, everyone's got to eat 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 11:51, mackem said: HMRC just want their place at the table, everyone's got to eat Expand Yep, those robbing b*****ds don't like anyone making free money. Unless you're a big multinational of course. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 11:01, sid g said: the main issue was they had no licence for the amount of breeding bitches they owned --- dogs were good pedigree pups healthy and kept in good conditions -- hardly your average puppy farm conditions , Expand Since the POCA there has been a shift in priorities regards the police and other investigative agencies. Whover brings the prosecution gets a healthy cut of the POCA fines so they are specifically targetting enquiries with the liklihood of a healthy payday at the exclusion of other inquiries that might be more in the public interest but would cost too much to investigate and without any POCA kickback. Basically it stinks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,829 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 20:13, Nicepix said: Since the POCA there has been a shift in priorities regards the police and other investigative agencies. Whover brings the prosecution gets a healthy cut of the POCA fines so they are specifically targetting enquiries with the liklihood of a healthy payday at the exclusion of other inquiries that might be more in the public interest but would cost too much to investigate and without any POCA kickback. Basically it stinks. Expand Legal theft just another form of taxing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 587 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 11:01, sid g said: the main issue was they had no licence for the amount of breeding bitches they owned --- dogs were good pedigree pups healthy and kept in good conditions -- hardly your average puppy farm conditions , Expand Do you class these healthy, desirable specimens? I can't imagine any reason for wanting one for any reason. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 20:32, mackem said: Legal theft just another form of taxing. Expand The problem is, like what has happened with speeding fines, the police are putting more emphasis on generating money than serving the public's real needs. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 People who'd even consider having one of those canine monstrosities need psychiatric help. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 587 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 20:54, sid g said: they look healthy -- i`m not on about the breed standard blame the kc for that === like i said if you read what i wrote not your average puppy farm conditions Expand Do they look healthy? What do they look functional for? What have the kc to do with it? What breed exactly are they to have A standard? Shameful. But if fekwits are willing to part with thousands for them, that is their choice, but it only encourages breeding of unhealthy dogs. I wouldn't pay £20 for one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,817 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Guilty of back to back breeding? Isn't that what farmers do and then cull animals when they they lose efficiency/ profitability? What makes dogs so different? Guilty of making healthy profits? That's called capitalism isn't it? Guilty of breeding unhealthy monstrosities? That's consumer choice isn't it? Guilty of avoiding tax? How dare little people attempt this practice. That's the sole domain of the big boys! They saw a market opportunity and made the most of it. I would suggest that people who criticise them are just envious of the staggering profits they made. There was no cruelty involved as far as I can make out. Load of sanctimonious bull. 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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