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[OldPhil 5,799]

 

On 08/01/2022 at 10:40, SheepChaser said:

Sounds like you have it very well well sussed mate and a good system in place. I also go plenty of places I’m not meant to be, but there is something nice, especially if you’ve got lads out with you, to be able to park the motor in the yard behind closed gates, and just run the dogs with not too much stress, pick any game up in the motor and be able to deal with it all proper etc. Take it down chiller and hang it up. Then go for a few pints. I don’t like stress. 

Yeah, in reality, that is the favourite way to go about the Hunting Life, in this day and age...

Unfortunately,.. and I am sure you know this,...you are in a minority...

The facts are, No matter how hard a man works or how much time, effort and good deeds one devotes to gaining good permission.. there is simply not enough places on that Magic Bus....

The majority of lads will not be able to 'get in'....

I know of several keen guys who are in the clique, and can quite literally, do as they please over quality pieces of land. They have worked hard over the years , either supporting the shoot, the hunt, or helping out around the farm,.. but  there are thousands of lurcher boys, who will not get into that excusive club...

It is what it has often been...not so much, what you know, but more so, who ya know...

So, what is to be done

I think the answer is plain to see,...and I twigged onto this whilst Police Batons were reigning down on my head, on the London Countryside March....I believe that the times are changing, and serious decisions have to be made.

The majority of the UK's Lurcher and Terrier enthusiasts have some hard thinking to do.

Never before, has so much been against us...

Perhaps, in the same manner, as with the fabulous wild creatures that we all love to pit our wits against and pursue, in the beautiful English countryside,...it will become for many, as it has always been,.... "The survival of the fittest"...

 

 

 

Edited February 5, 2022 by OldPhil

[Bangersanmash 2,933]

1 hour ago, OldPhil said:

 

Yeah, in reality, that is the favourite way to go about the Hunting Life, in this day and age...

Unfortunately,.. and I am sure you know this,...you are in a minority...

The facts are, No matter how hard a man works or how much time, effort and good deeds one devotes to gaining good permission.. there is simply not enough places on that Magic Bus....

The majority of lads will not be able to 'get in'....

I know of several keen guys who are in the clique, and can quite literally, do as they please over quality pieces of land. They have worked hard over the years , either supporting the shoot, the hunt, or helping out around the farm,.. but  there are thousands of lurcher boys, who will not get into that excusive club...

It is what it has often been...not so much, what you know, but more so, who ya know...

So, what is to be done

I think the answer is plain to see,...and I twigged onto this whilst Police Batons were reigning down on my head, on the London Countryside March....I believe that the times are changing, and serious decisions have to be made.

The majority of the UK's Lurcher and Terrier enthusiasts have some hard thinking to do.

Never before, has so much been against us...

Perhaps, in the same manner, as with the fabulous wild creatures that we all love to pit our wits against and pursue, in the beautiful English countryside,...it will become for many, as it has always been,.... "The survival of the fittest"...

 

 

That's some write up that mate. It's true an for the boys who have done there bit for the shoots an farmers who had permission have no longer got it. Because the farmers don't want grief off the law an anti hunting plod that go round Lincolnshire. You'll see now its mostly ferreting lads who have permission on dales or running sheep an cattle pastures. But many lads I know who had land up Lincolnshire have unfortunately lost it. A few had some permission over east Yorkshire way too on a pig farm they've lost it too. Its a sad carry on in this day an age that there's too many people sticking there s into other people business. An alot of them are city slickers not country foke. 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

1 hour ago, OldPhil said:

 

Yeah, in reality, that is the favourite way to go about the Hunting Life, in this day and age...

Unfortunately,.. and I am sure you know this,...you are in a minority...

The facts are, No matter how hard a man works or how much time, effort and good deeds one devotes to gaining good permission.. there is simply not enough places on that Magic Bus....

The majority of lads will not be able to 'get in'....

I know of several keen guys who are in the clique, and can quite literally, do as they please over quality pieces of land. They have worked hard over the years , either supporting the shoot, the hunt, or helping out around the farm,.. but  there are thousands of lurcher boys, who will not get into that excusive club...

It is what it has often been...not so much, what you know, but more so, who ya know...

So, what is to be done

I think the answer is plain to see,...and I twigged onto this whilst Police Batons were reigning down on my head, on the London Countryside March....I believe that the times are changing, and serious decisions have to be made.

The majority of the UK's Lurcher and Terrier enthusiasts have some hard thinking to do.

Never before, has so much been against us...

Perhaps, in the same manner, as with the fabulous wild creatures that we all love to pit our wits against and pursue, in the beautiful English countryside,...it will become for many, as it has always been,.... "The survival of the fittest"...

 

 

Great post mate. And agreed! I am in a very lucky position. But what I’ve found is most places running dogs are despised......... you’ll find some dog lads have been and f****d it up before you. That doesn’t just go for getting perm but also how you’re treated it caught poaching. 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

19 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said:

That's some write up that mate. It's true an for the boys who have done there bit for the shoots an farmers who had permission have no longer got it. Because the farmers don't want grief off the law an anti hunting plod that go round Lincolnshire. You'll see now its mostly ferreting lads who have permission on dales or running sheep an cattle pastures. But many lads I know who had land up Lincolnshire have unfortunately lost it. A few had some permission over east Yorkshire way too on a pig farm they've lost it too. Its a sad carry on in this day an age that there's too many people sticking there s into other people business. An alot of them are city slickers not country foke. 

In comers is a big issue, especially now they have camera phones. But then again a lot of dog lads are city slickers to also have also used camera phones, social media and their general lack of awareness of the countryside to get our sport screwed. I deffo wouldnt want to be in lincs etc. Here we have a lot of issues but if you’re not an idiot and get the job done it’s not too bad. Just got offered another 1000-1500 acres today. 

[Greb147 6,809]

If in doubt get the wads out.

[Greb147 6,809]

1 hour ago, OldPhil said:

 

Yeah, in reality, that is the favourite way to go about the Hunting Life, in this day and age...

Unfortunately,.. and I am sure you know this,...you are in a minority...

The facts are, No matter how hard a man works or how much time, effort and good deeds one devotes to gaining good permission.. there is simply not enough places on that Magic Bus....

The majority of lads will not be able to 'get in'....

I know of several keen guys who are in the clique, and can quite literally, do as they please over quality pieces of land. They have worked hard over the years , either supporting the shoot, the hunt, or helping out around the farm,.. but  there are thousands of lurcher boys, who will not get into that excusive club...

It is what it has often been...not so much, what you know, but more so, who ya know...

So, what is to be done

I think the answer is plain to see,...and I twigged onto this whilst Police Batons were reigning down on my head, on the London Countryside March....I believe that the times are changing, and serious decisions have to be made.

The majority of the UK's Lurcher and Terrier enthusiasts have some hard thinking to do.

Never before, has so much been against us...

Perhaps, in the same manner, as with the fabulous wild creatures that we all love to pit our wits against and pursue, in the beautiful English countryside,...it will become for many, as it has always been,.... "The survival of the fittest"...

 

 

Hancock or did you breed it yourself Phil? 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

If in doubt get the wads out.

Had some interesting conversations with farmers on the fens about what they have been offered by lads to run their ground. 

[Greb147 6,809]

1 minute ago, SheepChaser said:

Had some interesting conversations with farmers on the fens about what they have been offered by lads to run their ground. 

Question is, did they accept? 

I personally would pay money for good land if given the opportunity, worth it's weight in gold. 

[Bangersanmash 2,933]

16 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

If in doubt get the wads out.

Init money talks lol

[SheepChaser 8,089]

23 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Question is, did they accept? 

I personally would pay money for good land if given the opportunity, worth it's weight in gold. 

No I don’t believe they did. Talking 4-5 figure sums. 

[Bangersanmash 2,933]

10 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

No I don’t believe they did. Talking 4-5 figure sums. 

I know lads who've offered many bags of sand to go on. The land owners used to take the money before hand but now there under pressure by the f***ing law to call in an if they don't they get pulled in too for affray for letting it happen. I've been told that by one of the land owners over at swynefleet over east Yorkshire where M.P does alot of running. 

Edited January 8, 2022 by Bangersanmash

[Greb147 6,809]

10 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

No I don’t believe they did. Talking 4-5 figure sums. 

They can keep it then, rather poach em.

[C.green 3,231]

16 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

No I don’t believe they did. Talking 4-5 figure sums. 

If some of the good perm goes up in money now im kicking you in the shin

[C.green 3,231]

Been very lucky past few years to havd access to perm days running safe parking ect but tbh ive got perm on some places and never ever been back and got friendly with certain keepers and that that make it awkward to go on some bits of land at certain times of year. I quite like the unnoficial perm where nothing said but you get on and do your thing cause little agg and they get on and do theres and make out you dont exist.

[chartpolski 23,809]

If it's becoming so hot, maybe it will cull some of the undesirables and others may rediscover the good old poaching methods ?

Cheers.