low plains drifter 10,619 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Here is some rare archive footage of Scipio Africanus 1 Quote Link to post
tatsblisters 9,949 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 9 hours ago, jukel123 said: I was just reading about war dogs. The bull cross in the first photo would have been used to carry messages between the trenches. The army had a special training school. Proper war dogs ( bloodthirsty mastiff types) were used in battle by the Romans and others . I wonder how they trained them to differentiate between the enemy and themselves in the heat of battle? Scent? The old man who did his national service in the Royal vetinary core and was stationed in the middle east said his dog that he had the whole time would change its demeanour when Arabs were about obliviously picking up on the old man's body language when they came across them. 3 Quote Link to post
comanche 3,038 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 (edited) 14 hours ago, jukel123 said: I was just reading about war dogs. The bull cross in the first photo would have been used to carry messages between the trenches. The army had a special training school. Proper war dogs ( bloodthirsty mastiff types) were used in battle by the Romans and others . I wonder how they trained them to differentiate between the enemy and themselves in the heat of battle? Scent? From the old carvings it looks like they acted a bit like modern personal protection dogs . Imagine trying to take-on this chap as he advanced toward you! I have a book somewhere about the War Dog training schools in WW1 . Apparently lots of people donated their pets to the Army, either because of food shortages or through patriotism. A high percentage of these donated pets proved unsuitable during the six weeks of training and were unceremoniously shot . Some of the lucky ones were enlisted to guard military camps . Others went to the front with duties such as search and rescue , carrying medical and other kit , giving early warning of enemy movements , carrying messages or laying field phone lines from cable reels strapped to their backs . Interestingly it seems dogs captured from the enemy could be persuaded to change sides and work for their captors. Spaniels ,collies, lurchers and especially airdales were particularly suitable apparently. Edited January 10 by comanche 3 1 Quote Link to post
jukel123 8,290 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, comanche said: From the old carvings it looks like they acted a bit like modern personal protection dogs . Imagine trying to take-on this chap as he advanced toward you! I have a book somewhere about the War Dog training schools in WW1 . Apparently lots of people donated their pets to the Army, either because of food shortages or through patriotism. A high percentage of these donated pets proved unsuitable during the six weeks of training and were unceremoniously shot . Some of the lucky ones were enlisted to guard military camps . Others went to the front with duties such as search and rescue , carrying medical and other kit , giving early warning of enemy movements , carrying messages or laying field phone lines from cable reels strapped to their backs . Interestingly it seems dogs captured from the enemy could be persuaded to change sides and work for their captors. Spaniels ,collies, lurchers and especially airdales were particularly suitable apparently. That makes much more sense. A leashed dog is somehow more courageous and can be targeted. I had a GSD which would lick you to death except when she was chained. Then she became serious. I wonder how many war dogs were captured and then sent back to their home trench carrying gas or grenades?. Doesn't bear thinking about. 1 Quote Link to post
comanche 3,038 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, jukel123 said: That makes much more sense. A leashed dog is somehow more courageous and can be targeted. I had a GSD which would lick you to death except when she was chained. Then she became serious. I wonder how many war dogs were captured and then sent back to their home trench carrying gas or grenades?. Doesn't bear thinking about. Eek. Especially if they were cable- laying dogs . Run em back to their home trench with explosives and press thr plunger! A friend's lad who served in more recent war zones said that they avoided stray dogs and even donkeys in case they were booby trapped! Quote Link to post
jukel123 8,290 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Captain Mainwearing would not approve! Sneaky, bloody foreigners. Quote Link to post
Goly 542 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: That makes much more sense. A leashed dog is somehow more courageous and can be targeted. I had a GSD which would lick you to death except when she was chained. Then she became serious. I wonder how many war dogs were captured and then sent back to their home trench carrying gas or grenades?. Doesn't bear thinking about. My particular breed became part of the local cuisine in Japan during WW2, needs must I suppose. 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,918 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Goly said: My particular breed became part of the local cuisine in Japan during WW2, needs must I suppose. suppose to taste like kebab lol 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,022 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 3 hours ago, jukel123 said: Captain Mainwearing would not approve! Sneaky, bloody foreigners. Don't tell him.pike 1 Quote Link to post
gasaxeman 167 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 The russians in ww2 strapped explosives to the back of dogs as they had been trained to feed under tanks then let them loose on the Germans think this tactic was used in the siege of stalingrad. Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,022 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, gasaxeman said: The russians in ww2 strapped explosives to the back of dogs as they had been trained to feed under tanks then let them loose on the Germans think this tactic was used in the siege of stalingrad. Bet there working career wernt that long Quote Link to post
Goly 542 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 42 minutes ago, Black neck said: Bet there working career wernt that long Longer than a whippets? Quote Link to post
eastcoast 4,154 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 On 10/01/2025 at 12:37, comanche said: From the old carvings it looks like they acted a bit like modern personal protection dogs . Imagine trying to take-on this chap as he advanced toward you! I have a book somewhere about the War Dog training schools in WW1 . Apparently lots of people donated their pets to the Army, either because of food shortages or through patriotism. A high percentage of these donated pets proved unsuitable during the six weeks of training and were unceremoniously shot . Some of the lucky ones were enlisted to guard military camps . Others went to the front with duties such as search and rescue , carrying medical and other kit , giving early warning of enemy movements , carrying messages or laying field phone lines from cable reels strapped to their backs . Interestingly it seems dogs captured from the enemy could be persuaded to change sides and work for their captors. Spaniels ,collies, lurchers and especially airdales were particularly suitable apparently. 1 Quote Link to post
Goly 542 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 15 minutes ago, eastcoast said: A shame when you have to import them from the States to get a decent one. 1 Quote Link to post
eastcoast 4,154 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 5 hours ago, Goly said: A shame when you have to import them from the States to get a decent one. 1 Quote Link to post
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