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29 minutes ago, WILF said:

Do you have a theory what the reasons are for that cultural difference mate ? 
 

In truth I’ve no idea mate. It’s just different. 

It’s like going on a night out. Here, you never look over your shoulder to see who the dickhead is or where the trouble might come from. In Blighty that’s all you do.

So many little differences that add up. It’s not all a bed of roses mind. b*****ds irritate the shit out of me when they walk straight at you on the path or stand in front of the metro doors before I’ve had chance to get off ?

 

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I didn't take it as racist. I took it as feckless parents who don't give a shit, just like that white, lesbian pair. It also allways seems like an absent father is part of the scenario.

Good, whether she is black, brown or a vicky pollard lookalike, a shit parent is a shit parent, hope the book is thrown at her. 

I’m going to weigh in with I had my eldest at 21, I was still studying and had 3 jobs to cover needs. I used to look around at the scum parents in Blackpool (where we lived, studied and worked) and wo

9 minutes ago, mushroom said:

It’s not all a bed of roses mind. b*****ds irritate the shit out of me

Last time I was in Barcelona I was arrested twice in 3 days, and spent a night locked up, too f***ing right it's not a bed of roses AND irritating ?

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2 minutes ago, mackem said:

Last time I was in Barcelona I was arrested twice in 3 days, and spent a night locked up, too f***ing right it's not a bed of roses AND irritating ?

How the hell did you manage to get locked up ya daft git ?

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I was going to say this yesterday but got distracted. Just an interesting (to me) observation. I’ve spent some time in and around children’s care homes in Denmark and also in the uk. Here in the uk they tend to be quite institutionalised facilities where everything is monitored and done by the book etc etc, kids are either profiled as “poor wee children” or “little tearaways”. Generally they have massive failure rates with very poor future outcomes for the kids that are placed there.

No compare that to the Danish model I saw. These children’s homes had house ‘fathers’ and house ‘mothers’, staff were highly educated degree level folk, and interacted with the kids as family members. They sat down to meals together, they hugged them if they were sad and played with them in a natural and normal way. They would sit on the sofa wirh the staff and have a hug and watch tv in the evening. They had a massively high success rate with these kids going on to further education and meaningful jobs etc. 
 

In the uk this would be seen as unacceptable I expect. 

 

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16 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

I was going to say this yesterday but got distracted. Just an interesting (to me) observation. I’ve spent some time in and around children’s care homes in Denmark and also in the uk. Here in the uk they tend to be quite institutionalised facilities where everything is monitored and done by the book etc etc, kids are either profiled as “poor wee children” or “little tearaways”. Generally they have massive failure rates with very poor future outcomes for the kids that are placed there.

No compare that to the Danish model I saw. These children’s homes had house ‘fathers’ and house ‘mothers’, staff were highly educated degree level folk, and interacted with the kids as family members. They sat down to meals together, they hugged them if they were sad and played with them in a natural and normal way. They would sit on the sofa wirh the staff and have a hug and watch tv in the evening. They had a massively high success rate with these kids going on to further education and meaningful jobs etc. 
 

In the uk this would be seen as unacceptable I expect. 

 

It was and is, go figure ?

In the UK it’s the separation of profession and emotion. You can’t cuddle a kid who wants one because it’s not professional and you can’t act on your human emotion to do so, because it’s not professional ?‍♂️
 

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27 minutes ago, mushroom said:

It was and is, go figure ?

In the UK it’s the separation of profession and emotion. You can’t cuddle a kid who wants one because it’s not professional and you can’t act on your human emotion to do so, because it’s not professional ?‍♂️
 

p.s. empty thy inbox

Aye that’s pretty much it. We also have this over bearing fear of nonces. When I worked counselling kids, I had a number of parents come and snear at me and say I must be a wrong un, a nonce ....... because why else would a man want to work with kids. What the actual f**k. 

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3 hours ago, SheepChaser said:

Aye that’s pretty much it. We also have this over bearing fear of nonces. When I worked counselling kids, I had a number of parents come and snear at me and say I must be a wrong un, a nonce ....... because why else would a man want to work with kids. What the actual f**k. 

Yeah, but as I said that’s a society thing don’t you think mate ? 
People are, by and large, totally f***ing howling ! 
THAT is the bit we need to repair before we can ever hope to have a chance of delivering the best outcomes for kids.

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