SheepChaser 8,089 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, South hams hunter said: i dont sell vapes safer than your pot addiction You don’t actually know that. I suspect that whatever you’re breathing into your lungs isn’t very good for them ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,934 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, SheepChaser said: You don’t actually know that. I suspect that whatever you’re breathing into your lungs isn’t very good for them ! his pot is making him pass out ffs, my vape isnt. ive no doubt its probably not perfect but also its deffo better than smoking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, South hams hunter said: problem is they could never impose that, we would have to go like the yanks and each have private medical insurance. most issues people face are normally technically self/work inflicted; right the way from things like smoking/ obesity to stuff like joint issues The way I see is though is that I’m getting legislated against because of other peoples stupidity. Ie Grebs main point seems to be surrounding passive smoking around children. So because someone is stupid enough to breathe smoke into their babies lungs, you want to ban me having a smoke in the privacy of my own home. Same as the fact I pay taxes like you do and I pretty much never use the NHS. I think it’s a good institution but when I genuinely need something one day and can’t because there are lots of folk in front of me in the queue who couldn’t be trusted to look after themselves eyx. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Personally I think it needs to be addressed and sooner or later societies will need to bite the political bullet, stopping people from starting in the 1st place appears to be the least restrictive way of doing it. The the companies that sell tobacco knowing full well that it leads to pretty horrific medical outcomes also need to be tackled. One way would be to make it non profit. To look at it from the other direction, if a company came up with a product that cause the horrors of tobacco it would never get a licence to sell. Knowingly putting all that DNA mutating shite into your lungs and blood stream...... Tobacco smoking and somatic mutations in human bronchial epithelium WWW.NATURE.COM Whole-genome sequencing of normal bronchial epithelium from 16 individuals shows that tobacco smoking increases genomic heterogeneity, mutational... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, South hams hunter said: his pot is making him pass out ffs, my vape isnt. ive no doubt its probably not perfect but also its deffo better than smoking Yet I’d agree that Francie is hitting it a bit hard! But smoking that vape all day every day .... I’m not sure it’s better than someone else who has the odd spliff from time to time. Our of interest what don’t you quit vaping? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, sandymere said: Personally I think it needs to be addressed and sooner or later societies will need to bite the political bullet, stopping people from starting in the 1st place appears to be the least restrictive way of doing it. The the companies that sell tobacco knowing full well that it leads to pretty horrific medical outcomes also need to be tackled. One way would be to make it non profit. To look at it from the other direction, if a company came up with a product that cause the horrors of tobacco it would never get a licence to sell. Knowingly putting all that DNA mutating shite into your lungs and blood stream...... Tobacco smoking and somatic mutations in human bronchial epithelium WWW.NATURE.COM Whole-genome sequencing of normal bronchial epithelium from 16 individuals shows that tobacco smoking increases genomic heterogeneity, mutational... Out of curiosity why as I society would we want more folk to live longer ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mother_Mary 844 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Greb147 said: I've just been petting a bull today, the old Hereford is as soft as a brush. You drunk again? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, SheepChaser said: Out of curiosity why as I society would we want more folk to live longer ??? Not longer, healthier is the main theme, then of course healthier people tend to live longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,845 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 If tomorrow someone invented alcohol it would never get a licence. I find it difficult to agree that banning things that are traditional and have a history can ever be right. I see it as a dangerous slippery slope. What next? Banning eating meat? I hate smoking so normally I would consider legislation that could help society.....but today, as we are increasingly told what we can and cannot do....even told what we can say....i think its another worrying step 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, sandymere said: Not longer, healthier is the main theme, then of course healthier people tend to live longer. But isn’t that actually a bad thing ? Would we all not be better off of folk lived shorter lives? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mother_Mary said: You drunk again? FACT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: If tomorrow someone invented alcohol it would never get a licence. I find it difficult to agree that banning things that are traditional and have a history can ever be right. I see it as a dangerous slippery slope. What next? Banning eating meat? I hate smoking so normally I would consider legislation that could help society.....but today, as we are increasingly told what we can and cannot do....even told what we can say....i think its another worrying step Alcohol will always get a free pass, it’s the blood of Christ remember. Can’t ban that can you ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: But isn’t that actually a bad thing ? Would we all not be better off of folk lived shorter lives? Why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, sandymere said: Why? The single greatest environmental and societal threat to us, is our exploding population. Nothing can cope with the rate it is growing. And yet we are constantly trying to make everyone live as long as possible and reproduce endlessly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Lung cancer UK price tag eclipses the cost of any other cancer NEWS.CANCERRESEARCHUK.ORG The cost of lung cancer to the UK economy is Ј2.4 billion each year, far higher than the cost of any other cancer. This highlights the urgent need to continue to reduce... DEFINE_ME WWW.THELANCET.COM 2.4 + 1.9 billion, smoking is an expensive business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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