tatsblisters 9,729 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 I cannot understand why people are shocked about this tbh i reckon those Tory MPs in red wall constituency's will be the ones that get the fall out from this imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, South hams hunter said: bit like the church 1 hour ago, Francie said: Yeah I know should be hung drawn an quatered Power and the abuse of power…..when was it ever any different lads. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, tatsblisters said: I cannot understand why people are shocked about this tbh i reckon those Tory MPs in red wall constituency's will be the ones that get the fall out from this imo. Boris is getting away with murder…..what does that say about the state of the Labour Party because imho they are widely considered a complete non entity. If the current Tory administration is the best available that’s a pretty damning indictment of what we have allowed our country to become mate isn’t it 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,729 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, WILF said: Boris is getting away with murder…..what does that say about the state of the Labour Party because imho they are widely considered a complete non entity. If the current Tory administration is the best available that’s a pretty damning indictment of what we have allowed our country to become mate isn’t it Both are shite imho and would not vote for non of them only good thing about the Tories is they have managed to get an MP in a constituency around here and has put the labour council under pressure regarding the CSE scandal. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,826 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Sad state of affairs that they have created a system where we either vote for the least worst option or vote to keep the worst option out. I'd probably still vote Conservative because the Labour option is terrifying. That's sad as fck really 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,561 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: Sad state of affairs that they have created a system where we either vote for the least worst option or vote to keep the worst option out. I'd probably still vote Conservative because the Labour option is terrifying. That's sad as fck really Good post. The recent Labour front bench reshuffle sees committed europhiles like Starmer, Cooper, Lammy, Thornberry, etc, who, if they couldn't actually get us to rejoin the EU, would surrender huge swathes of our independence and sovereignty back to the EU. As you say, it's a sad state of affairs when the only choice is the least worst choice. Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,826 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Is the Tory party likely to split due to all this or will they just knife the guy in charge ? Hopefully get rid of Boris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: Sad state of affairs that they have created a system where we either vote for the least worst option or vote to keep the worst option out. I'd probably still vote Conservative because the Labour option is terrifying. That's sad as fck really 23 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Good post. The recent Labour front bench reshuffle sees committed europhiles like Starmer, Cooper, Lammy, Thornberry, etc, who, if they couldn't actually get us to rejoin the EU, would surrender huge swathes of our independence and sovereignty back to the EU. As you say, it's a sad state of affairs when the only choice is the least worst choice. Cheers. See, I don’t think that way at all lads. I think you have to vote honestly and that way you can at least say you tried if you get my drift. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,561 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Is the Tory party likely to split due to all this or will they just knife the guy in charge ? The Tory party have form for getting rid of leaders, but I think Boris still has more popularity and voter appeal than any of his challengers. Id say, barring some major f**k ups, he's safe until after the next election. There was no split when they got rid of May, and Boris removed the whip from 21 remainers, so I'd say no, they're not likely to split now. Cheers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, W. Katchum said: For who? Just wondering who would be on the running? One of the Pakis !…..lol, that would be amazing in a perverse kind of way. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,561 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, WILF said: See, I don’t think that way at all lads. I think you have to vote honestly and that way you can at least say you tried if you get my drift. I will probably vote for the Reform or Reclaim candidate at the next election unless there is a major shift to the right by the Tories. Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,462 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, WILF said: One of the Pakis !…..lol, that would be amazing in a perverse kind of way. I have always maintained within my lifetime the UK will have an pakistani/Indian heritage PM. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,561 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: There must be a lot of his team that are thinking, fcuk off with your rules and plans for lockdowns, tho, so surely if he making decisions so decisive then his team must be splitting ? If by his "team" you mean the back bench MP's then yes, there are around 60 of them that will vote against the upcoming lockdown legislation. If you mean his cabinet, they are bound by "collective responsibility" and their only recourse if they disagree with him is to resign, but how many would have the honour to do that ? If you mean his SPAD team, they are mostly young and have their foot on the first rung of the political ladder and are in my mind sycophantic yes men and women who are telling him what he wants to hear and would never resign on principal. So, in my opinion, the Tory party won't split. But as Chambelain said ; " a week is a long time in politics", so who knows what might happen ? Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,826 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, WILF said: See, I don’t think that way at all lads. I think you have to vote honestly and that way you can at least say you tried if you get my drift. I always speak to the candidates first. I'd vote Labour if we had the likes of Kate hoey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,826 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: For who? Just wondering who would be on the running? I don't know pal. My once political interest is waning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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