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2 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I think I catch the drift now, stats only count when they boost one's argument. 

It's written there in black & white for all to see and there's dozens more articles saying the same. 

?????no the only one ignoring stats here is you

the government and the nhs are lying and manipulating figures

You’re Ignoring that

youre ignoring all the evidence about myocarditis,f****d immune systems

yiur stats certainly look like they support what you’re saying but they really aren’t definitive

ive got some magic beans for sale here and I think you’re just the man I’m looking for

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9 minutes ago, tilimangro said:

?????no the only one ignoring stats here is you

the government and the nhs are lying and manipulating figures

You’re Ignoring that

youre ignoring all the evidence about myocarditis,f****d immune systems

yiur stats certainly look like they support what you’re saying but they really aren’t definitive

ive got some magic beans for sale here and I think you’re just the man I’m looking for

But you're quoting and believing stats that suit your agenda mate. 

You brought up personal examples, well I don't know of anyone who has had a heart attack after having the vaccine but I do know of folk that have died of the virus and I know a hell of a lot more people who have been double jabbed than those that have had the virus. 

You believe what you like fella and crack on how you see fit. 

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3 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

But you're quoting and believing stats that suit your agenda mate. 

You brought up personal examples, well I don't know of anyone who has had a heart attack after having the vaccine but I do know of folk that have died of the virus and I know a hell of a lot more people who have been double jabbed than those that have had the virus. 

You believe what you like fella and crack on how you see fit. 

I’m quoting and believing non governmental stats 

that’s the difference 

the government have been caught lying so why would I believe their stats

i hope you and yours stay healthy same as I would for anyone

personally I believe we’ve been screwed

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5 minutes ago, tilimangro said:

I’m quoting and believing non governmental stats 

that’s the difference 

the government have been caught lying so why would I believe their stats

i hope you and yours stay healthy same as I would for anyone

personally I believe we’ve been screwed

I've had the virus mate and it was less severe than flu but then again my cousins fella who is younger than me ended up in ICU. 

Regarding NHS staff, like has been said, it was only a matter of time wasn't it. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I've had the virus mate and it was less severe than flu but then again my cousins fella who is younger than me ended up in ICU. 

Regarding NHS staff, like has been said, it was only a matter of time wasn't it. 

 

I’ve also had it and my elderly father

we Both felt like ot was less than flu

if they were being serious they would test everyone for anti bodies before immunisation as that is correct protocol

if you get vaccinated and you already have antibodies that’s when problems arise 

I cannot trust the government or anything they say

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13 minutes ago, tilimangro said:

I’ve also had it and my elderly father

we Both felt like ot was less than flu

if they were being serious they would test everyone for anti bodies before immunisation as that is correct protocol

if you get vaccinated and you already have antibodies that’s when problems arise 

I cannot trust the government or anything they say

its common sense that the nhs workers that have worked with the old and vulnerable will a been in contact and have immunity so i guess they wont need the vaccine but common sense isnt common by listening to the plums 

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3 hours ago, Greb147 said:

I've told you, I've had the virus. 

Plus the fact that I'm a machine and didn't need hospital treatment, I jumped straight in to the deep end and didn't drown. 

Clearly I didn't need the vaccine mate. 

I don't work in the NHS and I'm not amongst the old and vulnerable either. 

Did you find any suggestions before asking another stupid question? ?

So you haven’t even had your vaccine lol what’s all this pro vaccine talk about go and get yours 

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