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[tilimangro 1,013]

  On 09/11/2021 at 08:12, littlefish said:

It appears that those clogging up hospital ICU beds are those who chose not to have the vaccine.  They get sicker.  They thought they would get the equivalent of a cold, some do, others, young ones included, are clogging up the hospital beds.

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Absolute rubbish

the ons shows that in some cases at least three quarters  in icu are double jabbed

how anybody first question this baffles me

 

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 09/11/2021 at 09:11, DIDO.1 said:

You some man you are Greb

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No I'm really not. 

You're trying to compare a fella who doesn't work in the NHS to front line staff who are mixing with the old and vulnerable. 

Like has been said, it's a shame these vaccines aren't 100% effective but we can only deal with reality. 

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 09/11/2021 at 09:17, tilimangro said:

Absolute rubbish

the ons shows that in some cases at least three quarters  in icu are double jabbed

how anybody first question this baffles me

 

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How many times does it need to be pointed out though mate. 

The facts are most of the old and the vulnerable have now been double jabbed so it's of no surprise given that they are not 100% effective to see that many of those in hospital have been double jabbed. 

I simple example that folk always bring up is very fitting. 

Say out of 100 fatal car accidents 95 were wearing a seatbelt, does that mean that seatbelts don't work, of course not but if you are just looking at the stats with no context one could try and argue they don't. 

[tilimangro 1,013]

  On 09/11/2021 at 09:34, Greb147 said:

How many times does it need to be pointed out though mate. 

The facts are most of the old and the vulnerable have now been double jabbed so it's of no surprise given that they are not 100% effective to see that many of those in hospital have been double jabbed. 

I simple example that folk always bring up is very fitting. 

Say out of 100 fatal car accidents 95 were wearing a seatbelt, does that mean that seatbelts don't work, of course not but if you are just looking at the stats with no context one could try and argue they don't. 

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If 95/100 people were injured wearing seatbelts then the seatbelts aren’t fit for purpose if those injuries are severe

those people in icu with covid have had the vaccine

you know the one that is supposed to stop you getting covid

Just yesterday it was revealed that the government and nhs have been very clearly manipulating data .we are being fed Mia information from the top and it stinks

I’m far from a conspiracy but I’m also far from naive 

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 09/11/2021 at 09:57, tilimangro said:

If 95/100 people were injured wearing seatbelts then the seatbelts aren’t fit for purpose if those injuries are severe

those people in icu with covid have had the vaccine

you know the one that is supposed to stop you getting covid

Just yesterday it was revealed that the government and nhs have been very clearly manipulating data .we are being fed Mia information from the top and it stinks

I’m far from a conspiracy but I’m also far from naive 

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Don't talk silly mate, if the impact of a crash is severe enough a seatbelt won't stop you from dying. 

The vaccines reduce the chances of serious disease and death, that's undeniable mate. 

[tilimangro 1,013]

  On 09/11/2021 at 10:00, Greb147 said:

Don't talk silly mate, if the impact of a crash is severe enough a seatbelt won't stop you from dying. 

The vaccines reduce the chances of serious disease and death, that's undeniable mate. 

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it’s totally deniable given the majority in icu have been double jabbed

if you’re in icu it’s f***ing serious

if you’ve had the jab twice and you’re in icu then what is the f***ing jab doing because it clearly doesn’t protect you as claimed 

joined up thinking isn’t your forte chap clearly

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 09/11/2021 at 10:22, tilimangro said:

it’s totally deniable given the majority in icu have been double jabbed

joined up thinking isn’t your forte chap clearly

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And I've explained why but it's just like knocking on wood with some folk. 

The vaccines have never been 100% effective and are even less so with the Delta variant. 

Now seeing as though the majority of the old and vulnerable HAVE been vaccinated I'll let you try and work it out yourself, I won't hold my breath mind.

[tilimangro 1,013]

  On 09/11/2021 at 10:25, Greb147 said:

And I've explained why but it's just like knocking on wood with some folk. 

The vaccines have never been 100% effective and are even less so with the Delta variant. 

Now seeing as though the majority of the old and vulnerable HAVE been vaccinated I'll let you try and work it out yourself, I won't hold my breath mind.

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And given the majority in icu are double jabbed and it isn’t working I’ll leave it to you try and tie your shoe laces

 

just remember bunny ears then down the hole

 

[Greb147 6,809]

[tilimangro 1,013]

  On 09/11/2021 at 10:38, Greb147 said:

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try supporting your position instead of simply trying to insult the person

it just makes you look an even bigger c**t

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 09/11/2021 at 10:42, tilimangro said:

try supporting your position instead of simply trying to insult the person

it just makes you look an even bigger c**t

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I have but if you're too dense to let it sink in I don't know what else to do. 

[tilimangro 1,013]

  On 09/11/2021 at 10:47, Greb147 said:

I have but if you're too dense to let it sink in I don't know what else to do. 

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No you just think you have

what you’ve actually done is swallowed a load of bollocks by a government and nhs who’ve just been proved to be lying and then simply regurgitated the same crap

if the vaccines are effective why are the majority of those in icu(this means they’re in a bad way for clarity) double vaccinated

the story is the jab stops you getting covid or stops it being bad yet 3/4 in icu are double jabbed

its got f**k all to do with the majority being vaccinated and everything to do with vaccinations being worth less than two fifths of f**k all

i Know several friends who’ve experienced heart attacks after the vaccine and several whose immune systems are fu ked 

but yeah you’ve really cleared that up

 

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 09/11/2021 at 10:54, tilimangro said:

No you just think you have

what you’ve actually done is swallowed a load of bollocks by a government and nhs who’ve just been proved to be lying and then simply regurgitated the same crap

if the vaccines are effective why are the majority of those in icu(this means they’re in a bad way for clarity) double vaccinated

the story is the jab stops you getting covid or stops it being bad yet 3/4 in icu are double jabbed

its got f**k all to do with the majority being vaccinated and everything to do with vaccinations being worth less than two fifths of f**k all

i Know several friends who’ve experienced heart attacks after the vaccine and several whose immune systems are fu ked 

but yeah you’ve really cleared that up

 

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Here is some reading for you to digest and hopefully you can join the dots together. 

I can post plenty more should you ask. 

"The figures that explain why so many people in hospital with Covid are double jabbed - Wales Online" https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/figures-explain-many-people-hospital-21217093.amp

[Greb147 6,809]

I think I catch the drift now, stats only count when they boost one's argument. 

It's written there in black & white for all to see and there's dozens more articles saying the same. 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Greb147

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