The great climate con .....

[kanny 20,696]

26 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Anybody care for a counter argument or are we all just going to do this covid style? 

Holocene thinning of the Greenland ice sheet

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Nature - The nature of the response of the Greenland ice sheet (GIS) to climate change is a...

Factcheck: What Greenland ice cores say about past and present climate change

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A misleading graph purporting to show that past changes in Greenland’s temperatures dwarf...

 

I can't  open your links BH but I have read a lot of supposed  debunking stuff around the  Greenland ice core sampling  and the bottom line was they were trying to say that Greenland is special and representative of the world ,  c'mon man lol

[Born Hunter 17,798]

1 minute ago, kanny said:

I can't  open your links BH but I have read a lot of supposed  debunking stuff around the  Greenland ice core sampling  and the bottom line was they were trying to say that Greenland is special and representative of the world ,  c'mon man lol

One point is that it’s a single data point and can’t be considered representative yes. Second is that since then they have taken more samples from more locations and they back up the narrative that temps now are rising faster than ever. I think… but I’m eating fish cakes so I’m not exactly in research mode. 

[Bearfoot 1,477]

Every new plantation I no off  is over 20 years old already  get way the times .atb 

[Francie 6,368]

5 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I’m no where near as clever as some you guys an them scientists that’s researching all this stuff 

 

sk can somebody honestly say to me that cows, whether it’s shite piss farts, burps or even spunk bubbles, are a problem here Look at the factory’s across the globe pumping shite into the air an water, fcuk our own govt are pumping raw sewage into our rivers, we are deep mining areas of the world that we can’t even comprehend sat at home on our iPhones but we worries about cow farts an burps
 

Excatly match the only reason there blaming the cow is because they want rid of meat eater,they dont want us eating our proper diet,they want us weak an feeble.

It's been proven time again you cant survive optimally without mest,you eventually will starve to death an go loopy from no vitamins an minerals.

Add up all the cows in the world an tell me China or the usa ain't pumping more shit out?

[Born Hunter 17,798]

10 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I’m no where near as clever as some you guys an them scientists that’s researching all this stuff 

 

sk can somebody honestly say to me that cows, whether it’s shite piss farts, burps or even spunk bubbles, are a problem here Look at the factory’s across the globe pumping shite into the air an water, fcuk our own govt are pumping raw sewage into our rivers, we are deep mining areas of the world that we can’t even comprehend sat at home on our iPhones but we worries about cow farts an burps
 

I think it’s a convenient target. Fits quite nicely with the vegan movement that seems to be prominent right now.

I think farming as much as any industry needs a shakeup and we need to look at things holistically and environmentally.

Otherwise we’ll have more instances of “yay we saved the Amazon, gin and tonics all rounds!…. Shhhh no one mention that they’re now ploughing the Cerrado grasslands instead!”.

Or “yay we are recycling all of the countries used tyres, gin and tonics all round!….. Shhhh no one mention were paying a firm in Asia to take them and they’re just burning them!”.

I could go on…

[Borr 6,273]

5 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I’m no where near as clever as some you guys an them scientists that’s researching all this stuff 

 

sk can somebody honestly say to me that cows, whether it’s shite piss farts, burps or even spunk bubbles, are a problem here Look at the factory’s across the globe pumping shite into the air an water, fcuk our own govt are pumping raw sewage into our rivers, we are deep mining areas of the world that we can’t even comprehend sat at home on our iPhones but we worries about cow farts an burps
 

I think it's a small percentage of the overall, but the carbon footprint is larger as a lot of agriculture is to feed these cows , so whatever many times the tractor has to plough spray etc all to feed a cow. Some countries are clearing forest en mass to grow cattle feed or grassland to feed cattle. Billion cows are emitting serious tons of methane , as well as all us humans , add to that pig's and poultry. Living in Devon seeing robotic milkers where cattle don't go outside unless they're dead. Surrounded by lush grass that is made into haylage or whatever, feed bought in?  Farmers won't plant trees unless government pays for it, wanting subsidies for everything , can't walk in a wood around here for cattle grazing the forests now. Guaranteed all the local streams and rivers have slurry and fertiliser going in them. I dare say there are lots of folks doing it right. I'm happy to dodge the supermarket for my meat where I can I do. But I think all industries need to look at themselves closely , from packaging, building, energy , waste, we must all see the way we go about things here on earth isn't particularly forward thinking or long term.....

All that said although trade deals aren't great for environmental issues, I think if the people can't be educated to be more patriotic towards British food/product/etc then you're back into a race to the bottom. 

[.357shooter 1,241]

so this cop bollox is a great success when the biggest polluters china,usa and india said get f****d.we are paying for this shite and thats with our massive 1% contribution to the worlds total.total f***ing bollox.we all know these mp,s have shares/mates in all of these green firms and will make billions out of screwing us over ffs.yet another massive lie.

[SheepChaser 8,089]

There was an anthropological paper I read which I can’t remember the exact details but it was something along the lines of societies hit a point where they want to be seen to be as progressive as they feel they are so want to distance themselves from the things that got them to where they are ie farming, hunting etc. It’s that rural / urban thing. But maybe now they can have the whole country as a place with super cities and dotted areas of ‘nature’ you can visit and walk around ..... and that is all! 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

There is another myth surrounding soya - that rain forests are cut down to grow soya for cows. The soya is mostly grown for human consumption but a large % is unusable so it’s fed to cows and other ruminants. 
 

Whichever way you dress it up...... it’s people that are the problem.

 

See my image earlier - there are actually slightly less cows now than in 1980..... but almost the double the people and aviation has exploded ......

[Borr 6,273]

I'd sleep rough for a steak....

[SheepChaser 8,089]

iPhones are another good example - the components inside involve some precious metals from some nasty global spots. The smart phone has a horrific global footprint. But never gets mentioned ! 

[Francie 6,368]

18 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

They are herbivores haha what comes from them is natural, what the corporations are pumping into our environment ain’t, it’s that Simple for me 

Another good point don,its all natural....

[The one 8,503]

No seen any of it but its the best conferance to hit Scotland for years , Once your over the Forth Road Bridge theres police on every fly over you cant see Ingleston Show Ground for Police vans . Same in Glasgow ive been out every day with the dogs and never saw one Policeman its going to be a great fortnight There even putting them up in £200 a night hotels 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

The other thing I always notice is that to the layman, when looking at farming small is always seen as good, green, happy etc and big and commercial is seen as bad, low welfare, high impact, poor quality. It is simply not true at all. 
 

Same with the indoor vs outdoor debate for livestock. Folk want all outdoors but I have both and I see who’s happier from about now until March  

[Bearfoot 1,477]

Largest wind farm in Europe the animals have become nocternol natures been evolving for the last 30 years open your eyes equatique also old  mother earth ain't she something atb