DIDO.1 22,582 Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Ever been to a bullfight? I defend the Spaniards right to continue their tradition. And I can see the drama, the risk and a bit 9f raw beauty but personally it would be a bit too gory for me. I would just feel sorry fora majestic animal literally brought to its knees. I've been drawn into the argument to many times, and won't again. If you want to see bulls go see them, if you don't then don't. If you have practical questions about bulls I can try and answer them, moral ones are for individuals to work out. I've never felt bad after a bullfight, but often have felt bad after a days shooting knowing perhaps dozens of birds flew on with shot in them. The effects of shooting can be shut out of your sight....the bulls can only be watched with eyes open... Fck I'm being drawn in.... Yes I have seen many. And trained with fighting cows out in the countryside 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Just now, DIDO.1 said: I've been drawn into the argument to many times, and won't again. If you want to see bulls go see them, if you don't then don't. If you have practical questions about bulls I can try and answer them, moral ones are for individuals to work out. I've never felt bad after a bullfight, but often have felt bad after a days shooting knowing perhaps dozens of birds flew on with shot in them. The effects of shooting can be shut out of your sight....the bulls can only be watched with eyes open... Fck I'm being drawn in.... Yes I have seen many. And trained with fighting cows out in the countryside I've trained with fighting cows in the pubs about closing time. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Dunno about Hemingway but he kicked about with Roosevelt and possibly Selous. Two people of that era and type who I really do enjoy reading about and should make more effort to read their work one day. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,806 Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Dunno about Hemingway but he kicked about with Roosevelt and possibly Selous. Two people of that era and type who I really do enjoy reading about and should make more effort to read their work one day. If you have not already read this book born I would recommend it. 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,427 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 10 hours ago, greg64 said: iv'e yet to read the green hills of Africa about the time he spent on a two month safari ,sounds good but havn't yet read it I downloaded it to my kindle and tbh found it hard work to get into a bit disappointing even though I have always been an avid reader over the years this was the first book of his I have ever read. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I like the Jim Corbet books. He was never afraid of sharing his vulnerability. Its one thing being asked to come out and deal with a mole or mouse infestation. He got called out to deal with man eating tigers and leopards on his own. Hemmingway was an ambassador for the French fishing tackle company of Pezon et Michel. He and Charles Ritz of the hotelier company tested new rod designs when they weren't shooting pigeons released from towers in Monte Carlo. Hemmingway also drank with the Irish writer James Joyce. Legend has it that Joyce, who was small and argumentative would get into fights and have to be bailed out by Hemmingay. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Yes, I've read that about Joyce. Hemingway was a boxing ref but never actually boxed as far as I am aware. Jim Corbet books excellent. Like Dido, I've learned never to have heroes, once you delve into your heroes' lives you end up disappointed. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OldPhil 5,656 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, jukel123 said: Yes, I've read that about Joyce. Hemingway was a boxing ref but never actually boxed as far as I am aware. Jim Corbet books excellent. Like Dido, I've learned never to have heroes, once you delve into your heroes' lives you end up disappointed. True words there Brother... I think we all like to believe,...in fact, I believe,...we want to believe.... Nowadays, I don't travel much, but I used to get out and about, and I tried to meet all the notable faces, within the minor Field Sports scene.. Maybe it was me...(for I am no big deal myself), but I found a high percentage of well known legends, to be rather less than legendary... Whatever,....we can all appreciate a canny bit of prose, and I admire anyone who can string a few sentences together,.. indeed, we have some cracking good scribes on this site .. but, I think it always pays to enjoy the reading experience, for what it is,.. and like so many other things in life,.. maybe don't delve too deeply into things... Stay safe now lads,...All the best,. OldPhil. Edited October 30, 2021 by OldPhil 6 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,565 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, OldPhil said: True words there Brother... I think we all like to believe,...in fact, I believe,...we want to believe.... Nowadays, I don't travel much, but I used to get out and about, and I tried to meet all the notable faces, within the minor Field Sports scene.. Maybe it was me...(for I am no big deal myself), but I found a high percentage of well known legends, to be rather less than legendary... One morning, after much correspondence twixt us both, I took a one-time Big Game hunter, Raconteur and general rumbustious, well travelled, man of the world, out for a morning's ferreting...The guy could not stop talking, (mostly about himself and his dogs) and told me about all the large dangerous critters he had dropped with Rifle and Dawg,.. he even related a well practiced tale, about how he once shot a native felleh that was trespassing on his property.. The man was a kind of Hemmingwayesque x Peter Ustinov type of character,.. great fun in a Pub,.. but certainly no genuine, Hunting Man. In the gently rolling hills of Sussex's South Downs, the poor guy was all 'lost at sea', and fairly fecking hopeless. It was sad to see, a mighty killer of Lions and Tigers, struggle to free his testicles from a barbed wire fence, and his point blank refusal to handle, let alone chin a mere Coney, kind of told me, all I needed to know... Whatever,....we can all appreciate a canny bit of prose, and I admire anyone who can string a few sentences together,.. indeed, we have some cracking good scribes on this site .. but, I think it always pays to enjoy the reading experience, for what it is,.. and like so many other things in life,.. maybe don't delve too deeply into things... Stay safe now lads,...All the best,. OldPhil. I'm gonna burn my Frank sheredown book now ,. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,108 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, Astanley said: I'm gonna burn my Frank sheredown book now ,. I thought he was talking about the little fat man from north of the border ! It's difficult to get over barbed wire when your legs are that short ! ! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,084 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, jukel123 said: Ever been to a bullfight? I defend the Spaniards right to continue their tradition. And I can see the drama, the risk and a bit 9f raw beauty but personally it would be a bit too gory for me. I would just feel sorry fora majestic animal literally brought to its knees. Believe it or not I went to Spain on a school trip late 70s and we were taken to see a bullfight and all the young bullfighters practicing on young bulls quite a spectacle from memory Edited October 30, 2021 by Greyman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,680 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 @WILF on local dance floors they refer to me as “el matador” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,680 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Nicepix said: I like the Jim Corbet books. He was never afraid of sharing his vulnerability. Its one thing being asked to come out and deal with a mole or mouse infestation. He got called out to deal with man eating tigers and leopards on his own. Hemmingway was an ambassador for the French fishing tackle company of Pezon et Michel. He and Charles Ritz of the hotelier company tested new rod designs when they weren't shooting pigeons released from towers in Monte Carlo. Hemmingway also drank with the Irish writer James Joyce. Legend has it that Joyce, who was small and argumentative would get into fights and have to be bailed out by Hemmingay. Joyce’s Dubliners is my one of my favourite ever tomes , a complete skewed snapshot of society racontoured in a pretentious almost aching style of prosaic delivery you can almost imagine each word salicously selected over wine fuelled drama in his Parisian apartment 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Gain 1,764 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 18 hours ago, jukel123 said: Ever been to a bullfight? I defend the Spaniards right to continue their tradition. And I can see the drama, the risk and a bit 9f raw beauty but personally it would be a bit too gory for me. I would just feel sorry fora majestic animal literally brought to its knees. I went to see some bullfights back in 1974 in Alcudia, Majorca, and they were all young bulls. I must say I felt quite sorry for the bulls and was disappointed by it as a spectacle, it was a rather small affair with no real atmosphere which made me wonder what the fcuk it was all about TBH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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