Original French Putanges

[Nicepix 5,650]

7 hours ago, earth-thrower said:

CLIVE,......misleading,....or misinformation, what you said about me above ?,....there is a difference, cause its one or the other ?,.......the facts are (& its all on an earlier thread, anyway,...),......i bought a pair off you ? yes,...but why would i buy a load of a trap type, initially, i havent tried out before ?,....so bought the minimum amount,....& thats right, first one i practised setting,....knocked itself right out of shape !..is best way i can describe,....& YOU said, afterwards that FAULT CAN HAPPEN with them,....but its not a big issue, & they can be fixed easily ?,.....& i wasnt interested in my money back, really,...cause needed the other to try, at least,...& for reference,.....& i admitted no problem,...that i didnt like them (before trying them) ,..(but suspected they were up for the job, actually,..it was obvious),........so Aye, a did say they were DEFECTIVE,......but im not that bad,..cause i accepted your explanation. Now, that ive since aquired a few more off your crowd  of  "ultimate stainless",  & trialled them, & got more used to them,... they CAN catch well,....BUT for me that type of trap,...is never gonna be my 'GO TOO' , first choice,......& thats not to detract from any merits they may have, either.    (so you can 'hold a grudge' against me, quite frankly,... for as long as you want ?,...but me personally,...(unless it involves actual physical harm,  i tend to move on easily, from anything silly, or relatively trivial)

You didn't buy anything off me. You bought two traps from my BIL four years after you had been slagging off Putanges on here and filling my youtube page with your negative ramblings. Then you claimed that the traps you had bought were faulty, but refused to return them. You wanted to keep the faulty traps and get a full refund. You threatened my BIL and left him negative feedback.

They are the facts and there are emails  to prove it, so why should we believe anything that you say?

[comanche 3,057]

9 hours ago, LuckOrJudgement said:

I still have some of Clives that are going strong.

Get  good strike rate with putangues. 

in garden work, I tend to set where I first break in to the run and use whatever trap best suits what I find. Don't like wasting time searching in vain for the perfect terrain.

if one end of the dig is galleried out with a hallway and/or multiple runs funneling in, then I'll use a Duffus. If the customer has been spooking with Chinese scissors, then the talpex is deployed.

otherwise it's mostly putangues I favour. Brilliant traps, but not the be all & end all of mole trapping. 

 

That's a bit like  my philosophy.

The Talpidaen Gurus ( a status easily reached by taking an on-line exam or attending a course it seems ) forever promote the search for a Perfect main  / travelling  / feeding runs or whatever sort of run   the Oracle considers the Holy Grail  .  

Oh so often though  , l still seem to break through into what are clearly fun runs ,school runs or molish Red Light districts. 

Insecurity at my inability to find the Perfect Run every time has been ameliorated over the years .   A  sub industry guidelines tunnel created by some  mole who hasn't read the right books or inaccurate divot removal on my part  no longer promotes an horrific gag reaction and feeling of failure .

"Only by dealing with imperfection can we accept reality and grow as Mole-Catchers"  wrote  the  Victorian hunter  Lord Knows in his book on lrish pest control.

Don't  waste the hole .

Somewhere in the bag will be the right trap for the job  . 

[earth-thrower 493]

Clive, your absolutely correct,...I did purchase, from your 'BIL',...& thats so minor a point, that it wasn't worth mentioning, cause I take it you sourced & sent the traps HE sells over, or whatever  ?,....(& again that's not a 'dig' !),...& if I remember only one trap,...f....d up,...so remember saying , "give us a tenner back" ? & I will hold onto the other, to use & for reference, (or that s what I ended up thinking)......& the rest of your statement is fairly accurate ,...apart from "threatened your BIL",...?,....again, not quite right,......I said " I can return the traps (or trap) in person,..if he prefered that,....next time i was 'down the line " ?,.....& anyway , yous were really that bothered about that I bought more of him,.....at a later date ????, cmon now,......& quite frankly I don't care what you decide "too believe" , cause the rest of what I said above, is TRUE, & you know it,..there's no argument,  cause its all on earlier discussions, on here ???...but you can pick & choose,  what you address,  all day,...it doesn't interest me, anymore. ALSO , I remember paying   £20 !!!! ,...for the  2 f.....g Putanges !  (good luck to yous, for getting it, right enough,...I will say on reflection),...but, you DID allude to something , along the lines of   " only Mawhinnie  ??,..(that's not my surname, by the way !), ..wouldn't be smart enough to work out a deal, & pay that "or something,.....(it's on the old thread),...bit 'underhand', you can interpret, from that then ???,........ ,....as if I was the ONLY one, that paid £20 !,.....when the FACTS where OTHER of his Ebay customers, paid it also ???,....cause I seen it in the 'feedback'......now again Clive , I'm not actually having a go,....well done, if yous can get it, & he did !,.......so you state ALL the facts,..as well, please,......& as far as my former or current, for that matter,  'conduct' here, with whoever, actually,....too bad , it doesn't worry me...have I been 'wrong' about whatever & a bit 'out of order' , occasionally ,....too right, I have !! 

Edited October 20, 2021 by earth-thrower

[earth-thrower 493]

12 hours ago, LuckOrJudgement said:

I still have some of Clives that are going strong.

Get  good strike rate with putangues. 

in garden work, I tend to set where I first break in to the run and use whatever trap best suits what I find. Don't like wasting time searching in vain for the perfect terrain.

if one end of the dig is galleried out with a hallway and/or multiple runs funneling in, then I'll use a Duffus. If the customer has been spooking with Chinese scissors, then the talpex is deployed.

otherwise it's mostly putangues I favour. Brilliant traps, but not the be all & end all of mole trapping. 

 

Again, good post , from you here,...,...I differ only , in I will utilise whatever, trap, type , I have with me,...& make it fit the run,....(usually a half or full barrel,..but sometimes a Talpex (genuine), now too),...

[earth-thrower 493]

2 hours ago, comanche said:

That's a bit like  my philosophy.

The Talpidaen Gurus ( a status easily reached by taking an on-line exam or attending a course it seems ) forever promote the search for a Perfect main  / travelling  / feeding runs or whatever sort of run   the Oracle considers the Holy Grail  .  

Oh so often though  , l still seem to break through into what are clearly fun runs ,school runs or molish Red Light districts. 

Insecurity at my inability to find the Perfect Run every time has been ameliorated over the years .   A  sub industry guidelines tunnel created by some  mole who hasn't read the right books or inaccurate divot removal on my part  no longer promotes an horrific gag reaction and feeling of failure .

"Only by dealing with imperfection can we accept reality and grow as Mole-Catchers"  wrote  the  Victorian hunter  Lord Knows in his book on lrish pest control.

Don't  waste the hole .

Somewhere in the bag will be the right trap for the job  . 

Mate, I enjoyed  this,.. liked how you wrote it, & your insight !

[Nicepix 5,650]

10 hours ago, comanche said:

That's a bit like  my philosophy.

The Talpidaen Gurus ( a status easily reached by taking an on-line exam or attending a course it seems ) forever promote the search for a Perfect main  / travelling  / feeding runs or whatever sort of run   the Oracle considers the Holy Grail  .  

Oh so often though  , l still seem to break through into what are clearly fun runs ,school runs or molish Red Light districts. 

Insecurity at my inability to find the Perfect Run every time has been ameliorated over the years .   A  sub industry guidelines tunnel created by some  mole who hasn't read the right books or inaccurate divot removal on my part  no longer promotes an horrific gag reaction and feeling of failure .

"Only by dealing with imperfection can we accept reality and grow as Mole-Catchers"  wrote  the  Victorian hunter  Lord Knows in his book on lrish pest control.

Don't  waste the hole .

Somewhere in the bag will be the right trap for the job  . 

It is surprising how many of those dry, scraggy tunnels turn up trumps. 

[comanche 3,057]

2 hours ago, Nicepix said:

It is surprising how many of those dry, scraggy tunnels turn up trumps. 

Yes it's  like not bothering to net those manky ,collapsed, blocked holes when ferreting .

[EDDIE B 3,166]

Clive, just goes to show, when you go out of your way to help people on here, it often results in getting a slap in the face.

Like kids in a sweet shop. There'll always be the odd spoilt brat, that no matter what he gets, he'll still have a puss on his face.

[Nicepix 5,650]

1 hour ago, EDDIE B said:

Clive, just goes to show, when you go out of your way to help people on here, it often results in getting a slap in the face.

Like kids in a sweet shop. There'll always be the odd spoilt brat, that no matter what he gets, he'll still have a puss on his face.

You should have seen the stuff the posted on the youtube reviews. And all from someone who had never handled, let alone used a Putange. Quite some expert he is 

[earth-thrower 493]

4 hours ago, EDDIE B said:

Clive, just goes to show, when you go out of your way to help people on here, it often results in getting a slap in the face.

Like kids in a sweet shop. There'll always be the odd spoilt brat, that no matter what he gets, he'll still have a puss on his face.

Well done, Eddie ?,....spoken like a true gent,...& all that  lol,...i never directly ever asked for his " help" ??,......but your right,..i can easily,...'fling my toys out of the pram' ,...at the 'drop of a hat' again,  but i try not too,....(if your refering to me, that is ?)   ha ha ha

Edited October 20, 2021 by earth-thrower

[earth-thrower 493]

2 hours ago, Nicepix said:

You should have seen the stuff the posted on the youtube reviews. And all from someone who had never handled, let alone used a Putange. Quite some expert he is 

Aye, a must have been enjoying myself,...lol,.........when did i ever claim to be an "EXPERT" , by the way ?,......but, aye, obviously you probably didnt deserve me having a go,..on there,...lol,....& thats as much of an apology, as your gonna get ( since your skin, is not very 'thick',.it seems ?)

[earth-thrower 493]

3 hours ago, Nicepix said:

You should have seen the stuff the posted on the youtube reviews. And all from someone who had never handled, let alone used a Putange. Quite some expert he is 

seems to me theres getting plenty "experts" on here..., & elsewhere now anyway ??  ha ha ha

[Black neck 16,120]

On 20/10/2021 at 13:56, earth-thrower said:

seems to me theres getting plenty "experts" on here..., & elsewhere now anyway ??  ha ha ha

They also implied your dibber were substandard 

[stormyboy 1,352]

On 20/10/2021 at 13:56, earth-thrower said:

seems to me theres getting plenty "experts" on here..., & elsewhere now anyway ??  ha ha ha

True, never thought someone could talk as much shite as whin, but there you are smashing it!

[Nicepix 5,650]

10 hours ago, stormyboy said:

True, never thought someone could talk as much shite as whin, but there you are smashing it!

Don't flatter him Bill. We'll never hear the last of it.