Wolfdog91 7,207 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 Currently reworking a old load for my AR using a Hornady 75gr BTHP. Ran out of my last favorite power so working with Ramshot TAC now. Thinking this is gonna be a good all purpose bullet for me. I've gotten groups down to 1 MOA without much development ( should get it much lower soon now I got time to do proper development ) , carries alot more energy then the 53-55gr bullet for the hogs I keep walking up on and their definitely gonna spin these coyotes when I get into calling more. Should be a decent deer round too if I can get the velocity just right.Best part is their less then $28 per 100rd Wish I could seat them longer but mag length has me set down to 1.856" max need to get a bolt action 5.56 one of these days Anyhow got me wondering what's eveyone like for their multi purpose round ? I know it's a bit less varried over there game wise but still. 1 Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 It’s way different over this side, your ar’s all have a lot faster twist rate than our .223’s majority over here are 1/14- 1/12 I use to use 55grn with ramshot exterminator! 75grn is a good round for nighttime foxing in .243 as it flys pretty flat for a good range.. you can only use .223 for two of the smaller breed of deer and I don’t have either species in the north of England so don’t own a .223 .204@32grn for fox’s and 6.5x55@129grn for the deer.. both work well. your bench looks like mine, same press and G clamps holding everything down 2 Quote Link to post
KimE 487 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 For do it all i .308w from fox to moose I have used Hornady 165gr sp, Norma Oryx 180gr and Nosler Accubond , moose are the what makes the limit of bullet choice. I wouldn`t choose a match bullet for do it all up to deer in 223r I would use a softpoint like a Norma 62gr or Sierra Game King. A bullet I want to try are Red Moose Tarvas. https://www.redmoose.eu/tarvas_bullets/how-the-tarvas-bullet-works 1 Quote Link to post
Dervburner 2,549 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 I don’t have a do it all bullet, and I don’t shoot moose. Mouse on the other hand, I’ve got hmr 4 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 My favourite caliber, no, one of my favourite calibres is 357, with any weight bullet! Well 125gn and up. Quote Link to post
shovel leaner 7,650 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 If I had to choose an all purpose bullet . It’s the Sierra blitz king in 70grain. I shoot fox and deer with it and it . I do however head and neck shoot my deer at very sensible ranges . I’ve not had a fox get up and say that didn’t hurt either. 1 Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, KimE said: For do it all i .308w from fox to moose I have used Hornady 165gr sp, Norma Oryx 180gr and Nosler Accubond , moose are the what makes the limit of bullet choice. I wouldn`t choose a match bullet for do it all up to deer in 223r I would use a softpoint like a Norma 62gr or Sierra Game King. A bullet I want to try are Red Moose Tarvas. https://www.redmoose.eu/tarvas_bullets/how-the-tarvas-bullet-works In the UK we have the Deer Act. This contains our calibre requirements: Deer Act 1991 WWW.LEGISLATION.GOV.UK An Act to consolidate certain enactments relating to deer with amendments to give effect to recommendations of the Law Commission. Funny thing is, Scottish deer fall over and die in shock at the sight of a .22-250. Edited October 8, 2021 by Alsone 1 Quote Link to post
KimE 487 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Alsone said: In the UK we have the Deer Act. This contains our calibre requirements: Deer Act 1991 WWW.LEGISLATION.GOV.UK An Act to consolidate certain enactments relating to deer with amendments to give effect to recommendations of the Law Commission. Funny thing is, Scottish deer fall over and die in shock at the sight of a .22-250. Yes I know about UK deer caliber , the Wolfdog are from Mississippi they do probably have 22cf as a minimum for deer. Its strange UK dont allow 223r for roedeer. 1 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, KimE said: Yes I know about UK deer caliber , the Wolfdog are from Mississippi they do probably have 22cf as a minimum for deer. Its strange UK dont allow 223r for roedeer. They do in Scotland, something happens to the deer if they cross the border! The problem is moronic experts, snobs and committee types having their say in the law making. When I look back to my stalking days I can think of scores of roe that would of fallen to a 357 or 44. Even ball from a muzzleloader. Idiots..... Edited October 9, 2021 by Sausagedog 5 1 Quote Link to post
Gav 1,708 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 165gn SPBT works for me In .308 win 1 Quote Link to post
Wolfdog91 7,207 Posted October 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 09/10/2021 at 00:22, Sausagedog said: They do in Scotland, something happens to the deer if they cross the border! The problem is moronic experts, snobs and committee types having their say in the law making. When I look back to my stalking days I can think of scores of roe that would of fallen to a 357 or 44. Even ball from a muzzleloader. Idiots..... Can't tell you how many deer are dropped in these backwoods with a. 22lr 1 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: Can't tell you how many deer are dropped in these backwoods with a. 22lr I can't tell you what I know too! Years ago before experts got involved the little 22 hornet was the favourite roe deer cartridge. It worked just perfectly but was outlawed over night by idiots, sorry, qualified idiots! 1 3 Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) On 09/10/2021 at 06:22, Sausagedog said: They do in Scotland, something happens to the deer if they cross the border! The problem is moronic experts, snobs and committee types having their say in the law making. When I look back to my stalking days I can think of scores of roe that would of fallen to a 357 or 44. Even ball from a muzzleloader. Idiots..... In other parts of the world, higher calibre airguns are used for big game. The ultimate of these is probably the Umarex Hammer: Airgun Bear Hunting With The Umarex Hammer - Hard Air Magazine HARDAIRMAGAZINE.COM For airgun bear hunting in this video, the Umarex Hammer is loaded with 400 Grain soft lead slugs from the Buffalo Arms Company. Yep it's .50 cal. but it's also 700ft lbs (only 1/2 a .223 in energy) and only 760fps! Bears, Buffalo, Elk, don't seem to know the difference: I don't imagine English Deer would either but it fails to make the specs for either. Just shows how ridiculous the requirements are. Edited October 15, 2021 by Alsone 2 Quote Link to post
Gav 1,708 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Actually judging by stocks, I like most .308 1 2 Quote Link to post
Baldcoot 2,352 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 My goto is cci segmented in .22 ,bunnies and foxes hate them for deer its been Hornady Whitetail .243 100gr btsp had a shocker of a weekend last November shooting a Roe and 3x Fallow with them . 2 Quote Link to post
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