do not panic there is no fuel left ffs

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 03/10/2021 at 18:36, mC HULL said:

You talk a lot a stuff mate never sense  

We’re all the same it’s environment that plays the part and I’m on the glue  

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A speak a damn lot more sense than you ever have lad.

The glue must be affecting your reading as well, I said it's a combination of both, are you saying that environmental factors have no bearing? 

You're a diamond you I'll give you that.

[mC HULL 14,009]

  On 03/10/2021 at 18:42, Greb147 said:

Err, maybe because there's more Asians in Halifax? 

Makes sense doesn't it. 

And if what were true? 

Explain away the downfall of small mining villages with no Asian or African influence. 

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Most likely no work and brown got a grip the Asians bring in

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 03/10/2021 at 18:42, mC HULL said:

Areas in my town were they are is like Baghdad they all go to an area that’s descent 20 years down the it’s an absolute shit hole 

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That's still not answering my question. 

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 03/10/2021 at 18:44, mC HULL said:

Most likely no work and brown got a grip the Asians bring in

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No, very few smack heads in the area. 

 

[mC HULL 14,009]

  On 03/10/2021 at 18:44, Greb147 said:

A speak a damn lot more sense than you ever have lad.

The glue must be affecting your reading as well, I said it's a combination of both, are you saying that environmental factors have no bearing? 

You're a diamond you I'll give you that.

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Wasn’t glue when I was a lad mate it was petrol from a cub 90 tank or gas and damp start  glue was 80s  

you sound like my labour voting vegan neighbour lol

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 03/10/2021 at 18:46, mC HULL said:

Wasn’t glue when I was a lad mate it was petrol from a cub 90 tank or gas and damp start  glue was 80s  

you sound like my labour voting vegan neighbour lol

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The way you're talking you could be the next Corbyn. 

According to you a person's behaviour is influenced by genetics and genetics only. 

How long will it be before you call for all blacks and asians to be absolved of their crimes, after all they couldn't help themselves, it was their genetics that made them do it. 

Bet all your curtains and carpets are red.

Edited October 3, 2021 by Greb147

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 03/10/2021 at 18:42, mC HULL said:

Areas in my town were they are is like Baghdad they all go to an area that’s descent 20 years down the it’s an absolute shit hole 

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Tbf Hull has been a shit hole a lot longer than 20 years....

[mC HULL 14,009]

  On 03/10/2021 at 18:57, Greb147 said:

Tbf Hull has been a shit hole a lot longer than 20 years....

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there’s been a shithole then there’s been Baghdad mate  

 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

I can't believe we are genuinely arguing about nature vs nurture lol. This stuff has kinda been done before . . . 

Anyone who wants to argue that it is entirely one or other. . . . .  needs to go do some reading lol.

I wont bore you with it, but I wrote a paper on it. . . . . looking at why we often see low educational attainment amongst ethnic minority groups in the uk. 'Old School' thought was things like John Ogpu's caste theory etc, and the general idea that ethnic minorities were just always going to be worse at education that the white kids. 

This was obviously proved to be total horse shit. Whilst culture could play a fairly large role, i.e. attitudes to female teachers, the teaching structure, past experiences (or lack of ) education. . . . . . it has actually been shown that it is an imposed class system which has the greatest effect upon ethnic educational under attainment . . . . . . that the ethnic kids just ended up very much like their white counterparts in a specific area - we stuck them in the worse housing estates, sent them to the worse schools, removed the professional qualifications (in some cases) of their parents etc. The same kids, stuck in different areas, school etc, did just as well as anyone else in school.

I know I shouldn't bother, because the answer will be "no. . . i'm right' from some regardless of what anyone says.

Genetics will obviously always play a part in everything, but really its not 'racial genetics' but individual genetics. Its a bit like the idea that used to go around that said africans made bad swimmers. . . . . due to genetic factors. Thats why they never got anywhere in swimming at the olympics etc, but did well in running (assumedly also genetic). When in reality the fact there are pretty much no olympic size swimming pools, or swimming pools in many parts of Africa, and yet shit load of opportunity to practice running sports. Bit like the film cool runnings. . . . . 

[mC HULL 14,009]

  On 03/10/2021 at 19:00, SheepChaser said:

I can't believe we are genuinely arguing about nature vs nurture lol. This stuff has kinda been done before . . . 

Anyone who wants to argue that it is entirely one or other. . . . .  needs to go do some reading lol.

I wont bore you with it, but I wrote a paper on it. . . . . looking at why we often see low educational attainment amongst ethnic minority groups in the uk. 'Old School' thought was things like John Ogpu's caste theory etc, and the general idea that ethnic minorities were just always going to be worse at education that the white kids. 

This was obviously proved to be total horse shit. Whilst culture could play a fairly large role, i.e. attitudes to female teachers, the teaching structure, past experiences (or lack of ) education. . . . . . it has actually been shown that it is an imposed class system which has the greatest effect upon ethnic educational under attainment . . . . . . that the ethnic kids just ended up very much like their white counterparts in a specific area - we stuck them in the worse housing estates, sent them to the worse schools, removed the professional qualifications (in some cases) of their parents etc. The same kids, stuck in different areas, school etc, did just as well as anyone else in school.

I know I shouldn't bother, because the answer will be "no. . . i'm right' from some regardless of what anyone says.

Genetics will obviously always play a part in everything, but really its not 'racial genetics' but individual genetics. Its a bit like the idea that used to go around that said africans made bad swimmers. . . . . due to genetic factors. Thats why they never got anywhere in swimming at the olympics etc, but did well in running (assumedly also genetic). When in reality the fact there are pretty much no olympic size swimming pools, or swimming pools in many parts of Africa, and yet shit load of opportunity to practice running sports. Bit like the film cool runnings. . . . . 

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When was the last time a white man was the fastest runner in the world  

Why have the white man always manipulated other races  

I’ll say no more  

Edited October 3, 2021 by mC HULL

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 03/10/2021 at 18:59, mC HULL said:

there’s been a shithole then there’s been Baghdad mate  

 

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Aye, them from Baghdad got the first plane back there once they stepped foot in Hull.

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 03/10/2021 at 19:05, mC HULL said:

When was the last time a white man was the fastest runner in the world  

Why have the white man always manipulated other races  

mill day no more  

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Fcuk me now we're jumping on physiological differences, your like a cod eye, all over the place.

[king 11,984]

  On 03/10/2021 at 19:07, Greb147 said:

Fcuk me now we're jumping on physiological differences, your like a cod eye, all over the place.

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Are you severely egg bound mate..

[Greb147 6,809]

  On 03/10/2021 at 19:12, king said:

Are you severely egg bound mate..

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No but your bull cross looks like it's eaten a few boxes of them....

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,358]

  On 03/10/2021 at 19:00, SheepChaser said:

I can't believe we are genuinely arguing about nature vs nurture lol. This stuff has kinda been done before . . . 

Anyone who wants to argue that it is entirely one or other. . . . .  needs to go do some reading lol.

I wont bore you with it, but I wrote a paper on it. . . . . looking at why we often see low educational attainment amongst ethnic minority groups in the uk. 'Old School' thought was things like John Ogpu's caste theory etc, and the general idea that ethnic minorities were just always going to be worse at education that the white kids. 

This was obviously proved to be total horse shit. Whilst culture could play a fairly large role, i.e. attitudes to female teachers, the teaching structure, past experiences (or lack of ) education. . . . . . it has actually been shown that it is an imposed class system which has the greatest effect upon ethnic educational under attainment . . . . . . that the ethnic kids just ended up very much like their white counterparts in a specific area - we stuck them in the worse housing estates, sent them to the worse schools, removed the professional qualifications (in some cases) of their parents etc. The same kids, stuck in different areas, school etc, did just as well as anyone else in school.

I know I shouldn't bother, because the answer will be "no. . . i'm right' from some regardless of what anyone says.

Genetics will obviously always play a part in everything, but really its not 'racial genetics' but individual genetics. Its a bit like the idea that used to go around that said africans made bad swimmers. . . . . due to genetic factors. Thats why they never got anywhere in swimming at the olympics etc, but did well in running (assumedly also genetic). When in reality the fact there are pretty much no olympic size swimming pools, or swimming pools in many parts of Africa, and yet shit load of opportunity to practice running sports. Bit like the film cool runnings. . . . . 

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The running is partly genetic to be fair mate . Altitude plays a part also . 
 

Caribbean is full of swimming pools as is LA etc . 
 

now mate considering that you are based where you are I find it fairly funny that you can say that race plays no factor in environment. What is the BAME % down your way ? As opposed to for example Salford / Solihull ?