WILF 47,349 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just now, Gypsydog94 said: Yeah I know. But what I mean is how many people can actually cook nowadays and not end up chucking a shed load in the bin. But that’s the throwaway world we live in. So the demand on farmers to grow maximum produce is always going to be high. That and greed Food has been a 3 card trick for way too long, “cheap” subsidised food in return for making two people HAVE to work and nicking more tax off them. Farmer don’t get the right money for his product and people have to eat shit on the fly because they ain’t got time…..it’s loose/loose for everyone except the tax man. Exploit the land, exploit the farmer, exploit the people. jmho 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,773 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Bang them on the course and get them off their arsed to get payed handsomely for sitting on their arses. I've heard the government are after 5000 wagon drivers to help come and get them out of the shit, you couldn't make it up could you. We've made our bed and we need to lay in it. Or alternatively wake the feck up and get out the bed 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,349 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, Greyman said: We have around I million unemployed, there should be none when the job market is full of jobs and wages are climbing, wren kitchens near me, £700 a week driving a van ffs, no immigrants needed just an attitude change and a belief in our own Like all things mate, it ain’t just black and white is it. Depends how many hands are helping themselves to that 700 quid? My pal has a really “good” job as maintenance supervisor on that big new port round my old way, he is a time served welder….skilled bloke. I think he gets around 40,000 a year and he was telling me his family never has any spare money, ever ! He ain’t a big flash type, not living big or beyond his means, just a normal lad. All he does is work to pay bills and gets very little for himself…..how f***ing soul destroying is that ? That ain’t right in my book mate. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Greyman said: Or alternatively wake the feck up and get out the bed That's it, me thinks though the Tories are full of shite and instead will be hoping to dish visas out like smarties. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, WILF said: Like all things mate, it ain’t just black and white is it. Depends how many hands are helping themselves to that 700 quid? My pal has a really “good” job as maintenance supervisor on that big new port round my old way, he is a time served welder….skilled bloke. I think he gets around 40,000 a year and he was telling me his family never has any spare money, ever ! He ain’t a big flash type, not living big or beyond his means, just a normal lad. All he does is work to pay bills and gets very little for himself…..how f***ing soul destroying is that ? That ain’t right in my book mate. I earn more than that and I can clarify I'm in the same boat. Admittedly we have most of the creature comforts but are far from flash, still, can we save up a substantial sum of money, can we fcuk. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,349 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greb147 said: I earn more than that and I can clarify I'm in the same boat. Admittedly we have most of the creature comforts but are far from flash, still, can we save up a substantial sum of money, can we fcuk. And there is one of the root causes of the problem imho mate, it’s not enough to say to someone you can have “X” amount, it ain’t no good to them if they can’t have a life…..you have to let folks keep more as well. Is it any wonder some folks think “f**k that” ? Most of these “problems” are multi faceted and imho require revolutionary systemic change. Politicians keep tweaking something that is broken because the status quo benefits them the most is bollocks, things need to start benefitting the people that elect them…..that won’t happen with any of the current group of MPs, the rot is just too ingrained imho. Anything they are “doing” is all f***ing smoke and mirrors to say they are changing but to basically keep things the same. Just my humble opinion 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,773 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Council Workers just pulled up outside to replace some litter bins, not a man much under 60 yo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 minute ago, WILF said: And there is one of the root causes of the problem imho mate, it’s not enough to say to someone you can have “X” amount, it ain’t no good to them if they can’t have a life…..you have to let folks keep more as well. Is it any wonder some folks think “f**k that” ? Most of these “problems” are multi faceted and imho require revolutionary systemic change. Politicians keep tweaking something that is broken because the status quo benefits them the most is bollocks, things need to start benefitting the people that elect them…..that won’t happen with any of the current group of MPs, the rot is just too ingrained imho. Anything they are “doing” is all f***ing smoke and mirrors to say they are changing but to basically keep things the same. Just my humble opinion Their first and foremost priority is to line their own pockets. I'm not moaning because compared to a lot of countries we have it good but do I think for one second that the Tories or whatever party have our best interests at heart, do I fcuk. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,349 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just now, Greyman said: Council Workers just pulled up outside to replace some litter bins, not a man much under 60 yo A friend of mine in Blighty is a teacher, few years back I met up with her and we was chatting. Her son had done everything “right”……done well at school, went to uni and did well there….a model citizen. He had just left uni and had a 20k ish student debt wrapped round him and had just had to take on a 35 year mortgage for a 1 bedroom flat !! Those old boys were probably young in a time when you wasn’t getting raped right, left and centre and have most of their stuff paid so don’t need big wages but what young bloke is going to come and do that when 1, it probably don’t pay enough for their demands and 2, they have been told their whole life those jobs don’t have worth ? We are dealing with a cancer imho, not a common cold mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,980 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, VOON said: So What about this “Modular Nueclear Energy”? I think he's getting at its a more consistent source of electricity than wind power.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 There is only problem to this driver shortage and that’s the fact the DVLA have a backlog of over 50,000 renewal and new applications for HGV licenses. If those useless fukctards did their job we wouldn’t be in this mess …….. 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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chartpolski 24,139 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Isn't it about time the Government, (Boris), told all these public sector workers who are on furlough or working from home, to get back to work or lose their pay ? It was the same when we tried to renew my grandsons passport; we were told there was a SIX MONTHS BACKLOG, and as he was at school in the Middle East he would have to go to the British embassy and apply for emergency papers if he wanted to come home ! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,773 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, WILF said: A friend of mine in Blighty is a teacher, few years back I met up with her and we was chatting. Her son had done everything “right”……done well at school, went to uni and did well there….a model citizen. He had just left uni and had a 20k ish student debt wrapped round him and had just had to take on a 35 year mortgage for a 1 bedroom flat !! Those old boys were probably young in a time when you wasn’t getting raped right, left and centre and have most of their stuff paid so don’t need big wages but what young bloke is going to come and do that when 1, it probably don’t pay enough for their demands and 2, they have been told their whole life those jobs don’t have worth ? We are dealing with a cancer imho, not a common cold mate No one forced the young man to take out a 35 year debt, it’s part of the problem everyone wants it now and pay for it later, greb is a prime example moaning he can’t earn enough to live on yet a short while ago asking which car he should buy, Audi or merc, my answer would have been neither but one you can actually afford, I sacrificed a lot worked my but off and payed off my mortgage as soon as possible, I,ve never owned a vehicle that cost more than a grand and most half of that, as I,ve mentioned before I am uneducated have no qualifications, and spent a few of my early years in Borstals and prison I have no family to help me in any way and have done everything myself, it’s why I have very little sympathy for anyone that is physically fit and able, if you don’t like your situation make sacrifices and change it 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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