Born Hunter 17,751 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, chartpolski said: H.MS. Conquerer flies the Jolly Roger; Cheers. First and only time a nuclear powered boat has engaged and killed an enemy warship in combat. And they did it with WWII era unguided torpedoes in favour of guided ones. The Royal Navy has quite an edge when it comes to real deal combat experience, in an age where very little happens. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KimE 487 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Nicepix said: You started out saying that Australia could have serviced the American and British subs if they had continued with the French deal. But without AUKUS the Aussies wouldn't have the technology, knowledge or facilities to service nuclear subs. Then you said that AUKUS would exclude New Zealand from the protection yet it is New Zealand themselves that chose not to allow nuclear powered vessles in their waters. Now you claim that AUKUS is dead. What planet are you on? No I wrote France have less chances to service their subs in the pacific with out the Aussie deal. As I understand Australia are not going to service the nuclear reactors as Australia have taken a decission to not have any nuclear power on their continent (water are exluded) the new reactors for submarines are not going to be refueled for 25y and it may be done in US. Jasinda Ardern not I said nuclear submarines even run by their closest ally are not allowed in NZ waters. AUKUS are still a new living pact, but cancelling a contract will make the time for Australia to get new submarines longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 11 hours ago, KimE said: No I wrote France have less chances to service their subs in the pacific with out the Aussie deal. As I understand Australia are not going to service the nuclear reactors as Australia have taken a decission to not have any nuclear power on their continent (water are exluded) the new reactors for submarines are not going to be refueled for 25y and it may be done in US. Jasinda Ardern not I said nuclear submarines even run by their closest ally are not allowed in NZ waters. AUKUS are still a new living pact, but cancelling a contract will make the time for Australia to get new submarines longer. Without AUKUS Australia could not act as a base for British ans American submarines. Now they will have an operational base in the southern hemisphere. That is a massive statement to China and Russia. And New Zealand made their own decision, nothing to do with Australia. I'm not so sure that China would honour that exclusion any way. Servicing nuclear subs isn't all about the fuel cell. The whole boat is diffferent so, as I said earlier, without AUKUS the US and British boats could not be serviced in Australia. That will increase patrol times in the southern hemisphere without an increase in the fleet numbers. Once the base is complete and staffed Australia will benefit from an increased presence of friendly vessels while awaiting their own subs. Again, an increased deterrent. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,114 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 News this morning that Biden has offered Johnson an opportunity to join NAFTA, before a bilateral trade deal is agreed. The Mail is deriding it as putting us on the same level as Mexico. What's wrong with that ? NAFTA is a free trade agreement between the US, Mexico and Canada. I see it as a way of getting a trade deal with America without waiting for the US-EU deal, which could take years. "Real Politik" at work ! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 5,783 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Don't think I'd want a trade deal with Mexico, country is flooded with drugs as it is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,114 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Borr said: Don't think I'd want a trade deal with Mexico, country is flooded with drugs as it is Tequila and tamales would be cheaper !! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,192 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Tequila and tamales would be cheaper !! Cheers. And all be ripped with muscle from that Mexican beef lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bearfoot 1,477 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 i was on HMS oracle a good few times my mate was high up in the navy PORTSMOUTH what a place that was good memory's crazy irish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve66 3,364 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Another interesting story this week , new jets to be bulit by pakistan / china , surprised the french havent got there fingers in that pie aswell Argentina bulks up military: £483m investment in new fighter jets – Falklands fears | World | News | Express.co.uk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,594 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, Bearfoot said: my mate was high up in the navy Look out in the crows nest ? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bearfoot 1,477 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) first guy i seen to have a American express card he bought himself out retired in America Edited September 22, 2021 by Bearfoot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 5,783 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Speaking at the 75th United Nations General Assembly, the Peronist leader also claimed Britain had an “excessive and unjustified military presence on the islands”. Unjustified, haha ey right... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, Borr said: Speaking at the 75th United Nations General Assembly, the Peronist leader also claimed Britain had an “excessive and unjustified military presence on the islands”. Unjustified, haha ey right... Tbf he’s right… the Argentine military of today couldn’t invade a football pitch never mind the falklands! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bearfoot 1,477 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Edited September 22, 2021 by Bearfoot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,594 Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 I couldn’t think of a worse job than being on a submarine ! Howling ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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