WILF 46,490 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: See you always do it . ”Britain is lost” - which particular Britain, the Celts, Romans, Saxons and numerous other groups have probably all said the same thing at various points. So have the fascists, communists etc. It means ‘we aren’t getting it entirely our way, the version of Britain that suits is is changing / has changed’. It’s life, it happens in every country everywhere. A Celt, an Italian, a Saxon are not Africans, Asians or Arabs are they. We invited in these people in recent history and started allowing our place to become like their place. We are worse for it imho 7 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: “The things you all hated” - who are ‘we’ and what is it we ‘hate’ .... as far as I can tell from my side there is very little hate for anyone, it seems a lot of the hatred comes from ‘your’ camp, whatever that is. I don’t hate my country at all for the record I just don’t believe most of our issues stem from foreign people or ideas. We allowed the propaganda to convince us that our moral values, our sense of self worth, the bonds of our shared faith and all that built were outdated, discriminatory, stupid and jingoistic concepts. We wrote them off and instead accepted this “anything go’s, right is wrong, wrong is right, everything is allowed” mindset. The time will come when we will reap a bitter harvest for discarding the very things that made us great imho 7 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: I to also enjoy our chats and I would imagine we agree on as many things as we dont. I’m fairly right wing in a lot of things I just don’t subscribe to this is and them thing along racial lines. I am an equality based hater, hate a lot of my own just as much Out of curiosity at what point were we ‘awesome’ I am inclined to agree we were, but I think if you look we have always been a multi racial kind of awesome, we maybe just didn’t admit it or record it that way in history. I suppose it depends on your point of view. Was it Alfred the great creating the worlds First Nation state ? Was it the agricultural or industrial revolutions ? Magna Carta ? The invention of rail maybe ? Our conquest of the seas ? When we ruled over 2/3 of the planet ? The creation of a universal public funded healthcare system for all ? Take your pick. 7 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: With regard to your daughter / boyfriend issue. If you go back enough in time you as a good Christian would happily have married your daughter to some old Goat of a man she loathed for financial advancement and depending on social ranking you would probably have either quite happily have put an inappropriate suitor in your eyes, to the sword or had her taken off you by someone you didn’t like but with no choice in the matter. The Christian faith and it’s disciples have robbed, raped, murdered and cheated their way to the position they are currently in. We do not sanction murder of your relatives for not behaving like the property of the males in your household, we just don’t. Im well aware of the atrocities committed in the name of whichever of the various religious clubs we choose, we are talking about a culture ingrained in the very soul of someone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,461 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Daniel cain said: Same goes for NI and anywhere else we've stuck our f***ing noses and they not wanted You haven't a clue about NI , it can't be compared to Afghanistan at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,083 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, WILF said: A Celt, an Italian, a Saxon are not Africans, Asians or Arabs are they. We invited in these people in recent history and started allowing our place to become like their place. We are worse for it imho We allowed the propaganda to convince us that our moral values, our sense of self worth, the bonds of our shared faith and all that built were outdated, discriminatory, stupid and jingoistic concepts. We wrote them off and instead accepted this “anything go’s, right is wrong, wrong is right, everything is allowed” mindset. The time will come when we will reap a bitter harvest for discarding the very things that made us great imho I suppose it depends on your point of view. Was it Alfred the great creating the worlds First Nation state ? Was it the agricultural or industrial revolutions ? Magna Carta ? The invention of rail maybe ? Our conquest of the seas ? When we ruled over 2/3 of the planet ? The creation of a universal public funded healthcare system for all ? Take your pick. We do not sanction murder of your relatives for not behaving like the property of the males in your household, we just don’t. Im well aware of the atrocities committed in the name of whichever of the various religious clubs we choose, we are talking about a culture ingrained in the very soul of someone. Don’t take this the wrong way but I don’t think your opinion allows you to carry out critical thought and analysis. I honestly think we live in totally different worlds, yours sounds like a very depressing place! You do realise with regard to history etc, the version you hold As gospel ..... we kind of wrote ..... Things like nation states, agricultural revolution, naval dominance etc ...... other people got there way way way before us, but we wrote the books so funnily enough we came out on top Don’t get me wrong we did take over and control most of the world, you are correct ..... but we did it by being and doing all of the things you seem to hate other groups for doing. By the way leviticus 20:10 has quite a bit about executing woman for adultery and stoning women for being raped when a virgin ........ Christianity and Islam is largely the same religion, we have just largely (well not the yanks), moved away from the extremest versions of the faith at this moment in history whereas the Muslims are embracing it. It’s just how it is, they are doing their crusade now, we did ours ages ago. It’s life, don’t hate the players, hate the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Can anybody name me 10 benefits to this country from allowing immigration from muslim countries. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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SheepChaser 8,083 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, socks said: Can anybody name me 10 benefits to this country from allowing immigration from muslim countries. We’d be f*cked on the running, cricket, and kebab front. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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SheepChaser 8,083 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 It’s eerily like the last days of Saigon, but with a worse sound track. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 22,921 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: It’s eerily like the last days of Saigon, but with a worse sound track. Yeah, seeing those people clinging to the outside of c5 aircraft taking off is reminiscent of people clinging to helicopters lifting offrom the US embassy in Saigon. Evedently people have fallen to their deaths and Biden has suspended flights. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Greb147 said: You watch too many movies mate. Pray for the men of Afghanistan it should read.....no women or children in the country it seems! Just another Western PR stunt. Townhall message board reads... 'Turn up at airport, run along side plane and collect your bag of flour on your way home.' Text book propaganda Edited August 16, 2021 by Neobliviscaris1776 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,490 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 hours ago, SheepChaser said: Don’t take this the wrong way but I don’t think your opinion allows you to carry out critical thought and analysis. That’s called bias…..I have it and you have it too, not really a revelation is it mate. 2 hours ago, SheepChaser said: I honestly think we live in totally different worlds, yours sounds like a very depressing place! Not at all, I live amongst people like me in a community that shares my values with people who look like me. It ok as it happens. Saying the emperor has no clothes on isn’t depressing, I don’t have to play this national game of “let’s pretend” 2 hours ago, SheepChaser said: You do realise with regard to history etc, the version you hold As gospel ..... we kind of wrote ..... Things like nation states, agricultural revolution, naval dominance etc ...... other people got there way way way before us, but we wrote the books so funnily enough we came out on top Who exactly has a better claim to being the First Nation state ? Who had global naval dominance before us ? Who came up with the version of agriculture that we can recognise today before us ? I would genuinely like to know. 2 hours ago, SheepChaser said: Don’t get me wrong we did take over and control most of the world, you are correct ..... but we did it by being and doing all of the things you seem to hate other groups for doing. And ?……..again, we ain’t them are we. Why should we beat ourselves up for being good at something ? 2 hours ago, SheepChaser said: By the way leviticus 20:10 has quite a bit about executing woman for adultery and stoning women for being raped when a virgin ........ Again, And ? …….. I think we left that behind over a thousand years ago, in Islam, that’s happening tomorrow ! 2 hours ago, SheepChaser said: Christianity and Islam is largely the same religion, we have just largely (well not the yanks), moved away from the extremest versions of the faith at this moment in history whereas the Muslims are embracing it. It’s just how it is, they are doing their crusade now, we did ours ages ago. It’s life, don’t hate the players, hate the game. WE have moved on, THEY have not. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said: You watch too many movies mate. Pray for the men of Afghanistan it should read.....no women or children in the country it seems! Just another Western PR stunt. Townhall message board reads... 'Turn up at airport, run along side plane and collect your bag of flour on your way home.' Text book propaganda CGI is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big sid 1,126 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 gone yerself wilfy bhoy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,490 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 hours ago, SheepChaser said: That’s just people mate. Sorry I don’t buy into this us and them crap. People and governments have been using it since the dawn of time to control their citizens. You always have to have an evil ‘other’ force which is what bands you together through a mix of hate and fear. It allows you to feel unified because you are not them, you are you. Always been like it mate. But let’s be honest most of the folk who screw you or have screwed you ..... bet they weren’t Muslims bet they were white folk like you. But it’s great just keep fearing the big scary monster under the bed Imho, “Us & Them” is a perfectly natural instinct in the animal kingdom…..you see it everywhere. If it didn’t exist, your sheep dog would be useless ! Your bias is that you think the only difference between you and a fuzzy wuzzy is your skin colour……my bias is that I don’t Trying to muddy the waters by saying “well Boris fucks you over” is frankly nonsense mate……people exploit other people, that’s not in any way news to anybody. What has that got to do with being completely alien culturally and socially to Islam ? It’s wasps in a bees nest, not does the queen bee take the piss out of the worker bees?…….totally different things. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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