Afghanistan

[WILF 46,873]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

Well read the arguments for both sides 

We went because he was a tyrant and had weapons mass destruction which we never found lol 

Or we went to take oil for gain and to get them back on the dollar and show the rest what happen if you f**k with the USA 

As soon as we got there we was securing oil fields 

You make your own mind up 

What do you think joe

And what’s bad about showing the world what happens if you f**k with a western superpower ?

Thats life surely ?…….if someone’s getting a bit big for their boots or a nuisance then you give them a punch in the mouth……it’s not just for them strictly, it also tells everyone else not to f**k about.

That’s the story of mankind isn’t it mate.

[WILF 46,873]

3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

That’s the second time you’ve said Afghan was taken as a forward base for invading Iraq. Mate, have you looked at a map? Why base in Afghan which is the other side of Iran from Iraq when they already have bases on Iraq’s border, about 11 carrier strike groups that can sit in the eastern med and Persian gulf (much closer) and bases in Europe to fly air lift and strategic bombers from? It’s just nonsense.

spot on.

Lets keep in mind that ONE carrier strike group can wipe a small country off the face of the earth without too much problem. 

[Born Hunter 17,763]

The point non interventionists miss with all this is unfortunately there has to be a top dog. There has to be someone on the throne in geopolitical terms. And god forbid the day soon when that seat is contested.

If the yanks weren’t trying to assert control of geostrategic regions then another would and will step in.

It ain’t right or fair but it could be a damn sight less so.

[mC HULL 12,540]

7 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

That’s the second time you’ve said Afghan was taken as a forward base for invading Iraq. Mate, have you looked at a map? Why base in Afghan which is the other side of Iran from Iraq when they already have bases on Iraq’s border, about 11 carrier strike groups that can sit in the eastern med and Persian gulf (much closer) and bases in Europe to fly air lift and strategic bombers from? It’s just nonsense.

Lol when you invade you need supplies when men are on the ground surely 

[mC HULL 12,540]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

And what’s bad about showing the world what happens if you f**k with a western superpower ?

Thats life surely ?…….if someone’s getting a bit big for their boots or a nuisance then you give them a punch in the mouth……it’s not just for them strictly, it also tells everyone else not to f**k about.

That’s the story of mankind isn’t it mate.

[Born Hunter 17,763]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

spot on.

Lets keep in mind that ONE carrier strike group can wipe a small country off the face of the earth without too much problem. 

Iraq was something like the fourth largest military on the planet at the time I believe. They were expected to put up much more resistance than they did. They were a respectable force and they crumbled relatively easily. It doesn’t make any sense to go to the hassle of taking afghan to take Iraq. It might have been handy for Iran but that wasn’t the claim.

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21 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Mate its all in the plan funded by the USA surely you can see that  

What plan mate ? 
 

whose plan ? 
 

im really not buying into this whole Illuminati spectre grand plan of yours . It’s far far too complicated involving too many working parts . I can deal with the whole conflict for greed arguement, i think that’s a given . 
 

but for the puppet masters and all this industry oligarch , I just don’t buy it purely as the likes of Tony Blair etc are just too stupid to augment such a grand scheme . 

[Born Hunter 17,763]

3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Lol when you invade you need supplies when men are on the ground surely 

Look at a map…..

[WILF 46,873]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Lol when you invade you need supplies when men are on the ground surely 

Mate, I don’t think many of us are fully aware of just what massive resources America have and what they are actually capable of doing.

I think the marine Corps alone is something like 500,000 men ?……I could be wrong.

But if America have something they will also have the full capability to fully back it up…..they will have a f***ing McDonalds shipped to any theatre of war on the planet !!
 Resources are absolutely nothing to the USA 

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1 minute ago, WILF said:

Mate, I don’t think many of us are fully aware of just what massive resources America have and what they are actually capable of doing.

I think the marine Corps alone is something like 500,000 men ?……I could be wrong.

But if America have something they will also have the full capability to fully back it up…..they will have a f***ing McDonalds shipped to any theatre of war on the planet !!
 Resources are absolutely nothing to the USA 

Every American base no matter where in the world is a miniature America complete with road signs restaurants cinemas and the days papers. It’s nuts. 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,949]

8 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Lol when you invade you need supplies when men are on the ground surely 

We could barely get post-mortem the lads in the fobs in Afghan, never mind sending war machines to Iraq ffs pal

 

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Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

We could barely get post-mortem the lads in the fobs in Afghan, never mind sending war machines to Iraq ffs pal

 

Post to the fobs , not post Mortem 

[WILF 46,873]

2 minutes ago, socks said:

Every American base no matter where in the world is a miniature America complete with road signs restaurants cinemas and the days papers. It’s nuts. 

I have only ever been up and around Mildenhall and it’s nuts mate, as you say, mini America.

[Born Hunter 17,763]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Mate, I don’t think many of us are fully aware of just what massive resources America have and what they are actually capable of doing.

I think the marine Corps alone is something like 500,000 men ?……I could be wrong.

But if America have something they will also have the full capability to fully back it up…..they will have a f***ing McDonalds shipped to any theatre of war on the planet !!
 Resources are absolutely nothing to the USA 

If I’m not mistaken, they were denied a northern base by turkey but Kuwait allowed them a southern base, which for anyone who had a map will see is on the border, no thousands of miles away in the other side of a hostile state. And they launched a massive naval and amphibious assault from the sea in the gulf, also obviously right on Iraq’s border (maritime). There strategic bombers can probably fly mission from the homeland with tankers to refuel, never mind from closer bases in Europe etc. Their whole military is based around power projection and the logistics chain is absolutely essential to that. They have untold planes and ships to supply their combat forces without any need for a friendly forward base….

[WILF 46,873]

2 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Post to the fobs , not post Mortem 

America has McDonalds and you are having to sit through an inquest about 5 litres of engine oil ! Lol