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58 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Which means more measures should be put in to place to try and minimise the chances of potential crack pots owning said guns.

The UK has some of the strictest gun laws in the world

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People can run round attacking folks with a hammer !  Mentally unstable people will find a way. Its frankly a joke talking about the absolutely minuscule instances of people with legally held f

Come across a few landowners and gamekeepers in the past who should not have a spud gun never mind a shotgun. 

Absolute tragedy. Guy was a loner who couldn’t get a ride. Probably spent his entire youth holed up in his bedroom playing GTA. Get used to this, because we’re raising a generation of boys just like h

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1 hour ago, Greb147 said:

Which means more measures should be put in to place 

More measures doesn't make any difference if those carrying out the law are 'incompetent' or 'intentionally' turning a blind eye to certain people.

If they can't apply the laws that are already there..what makes you think more laws will help??

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1 hour ago, Greb147 said:

Which means more measures should be put in to place to try and minimise the chances of potential crack pots owning said guns.

I could buy an illegal firearm easier and cheaper than I could buy a legal air rifle mate don’t think laws and rules will change any of that ?

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2 hours ago, Greb147 said:

Which means more measures should be put in to place to try and minimise the chances of potential crack pots owning said guns.

Have you got a shotgun or firearms license ??? 

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53 minutes ago, Greyman said:

I could buy an illegal firearm easier and cheaper than I could buy a legal air rifle mate don’t think laws and rules will change any of that ?

We are not talking about the black market mate, he had a licence didn't he?

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6 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

No, never have tbh. 

My point was more aimed at the Yanks.

The right to bare arms is enshrined in law to protect people from their own government in the US.

It’s was and still is seen as a fundamental right to protect a citizens freedom.

Mate, it don’t matter if a bloke owns an Apache attack helicopter if that’s what he wants to do, the problem is purely if he uses it to go nuts……no amount of laws and rules and regulations can regulate that.

Thats just basic logic ! 

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6 minutes ago, WILF said:

The right to bare arms is enshrined in law to protect people from their own government in the US.

It’s was and still is seen as a fundamental right to protect a citizens freedom.

Mate, it don’t matter if a bloke owns an Apache attack helicopter if that’s what he wants to do, the problem is purely if he uses it to go nuts……no amount of laws and rules and regulations can regulate that.

Thats just basic logic ! 

Of course it does matter, if he didn't have access to an Apache attack helicopter then he couldn't use it to wipe his street out! ?

Wether you agree wether they should be banned or not, that does not mean that we should ignore how obvious that is. 

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2 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Of course it does matter, if he didn't have access to an Apache attack helicopter then he couldn't use it to wipe his street out! ?

Wether you agree wether they should be banned or not, that does not mean that we should ignore how obvious that is. 

 

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Not read the details but the only issue here is why he had them returned after losing them for what ever reason. Other than that nothing should change. The fact is if you have a cert you have to be squeaky clean and not even say boo to a goose. But he could have just as easy jumped in his motor and caused untold damage. 

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