Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 13/08/2021 at 07:24, Greb147 said: I couldn't say, I've never seen the dog or had one down from it. If anyone today is working a dog...that is down from a line of dogs, established some 20 years ago....how close to the original animal can they be?lol Or are you one of these guys that waits till the dog or bitch is proven at 10 years old?lol If gameness and drive is your goal...you'll know pretty early on in its career if you've got one or not imo. 1 1 Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said: If anyone today is working a dog...that is down from a line of dogs, established some 20 years ago....how close to the original animal can they be?lol Or are you one of these guys that waits till the dog or bitch is proven at 10 years old?lol If gameness and drive is your goal...you'll know pretty early on in its career if you've got one or not imo. What the hell are you babbling on about mate? 1 1 Quote Link to post
awen 29 Posted August 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said: If anyone today is working a dog...that is down from a line of dogs, established some 20 years ago....how close to the original animal can they be?lol Or are you one of these guys that waits till the dog or bitch is proven at 10 years old?lol If gameness and drive is your goal...you'll know pretty early on in its career if you've got one or not imo. bud if you breed shit to shit you get shit. if the dog is line bred you know that the good characteristics have been back bred into it for a particular phenotype, you are guaranteeing desirable characteristics in the pups. If the dog is line bred this process has been going on generations. If the right selection process is taking place to breed out undesirable characteristics then each generation is getting more stable in its genetics. This is why line bred dogs are better because you are giving yourself the best chance first time. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,478 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, awen said: bud if you breed shit to shit you get shit. if the dog is line bred you know that the good characteristics have been back bred into it for a particular phenotype, you are guaranteeing desirable characteristics in the pups. If the dog is line bred this process has been going on generations. If the right selection process is taking place to breed out undesirable characteristics then each generation is getting more stable in its genetics. This is why line bred dogs are better because you are giving yourself the best chance first time. I think that's what he is saying mate 1 Quote Link to post
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, awen said: bud if you breed shit to shit you get shit. if the dog is line bred you know that the good characteristics have been back bred into it for a particular phenotype, you are guaranteeing desirable characteristics in the pups. If the dog is line bred this process has been going on generations. If the right selection process is taking place to breed out undesirable characteristics then each generation is getting more stable in its genetics. This is why line bred dogs are better because you are giving yourself the best chance first time. I agree with you mate. I was trying to educate Greb...as he had a little laugh when I mentioned my dog was a GGGG of Pye 1 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,478 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said: I agree with you mate. I was trying to educate Greb...as he had a little laugh when I mentioned my dog was a GGGG of Pye If each generation is doing the do then its as close to pie as can be isn't it Waiting until its 10 and proven lol to breed is going to faack the line real quick you need to see early what it leaves and maybe try digmfferent dogs before it is up to standard to carry the line on Common sense lol 2 Quote Link to post
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, mC HULL said: If each generation is doing the do then its as close to pie as can be isn't it Waiting until its 10 and proven lol to breed is going to faack the line real quick you need to see early what it leaves and maybe try digmfferent dogs before it is up to standard to carry the line on Common sense lol I agree mate If the dogs involved are of a good standard to start with..then they should really shine through early on... because if they don't...as you say best try different dogs until it clicks Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 Its funny you dont see much off this on seagull thread lol Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 49 minutes ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said: I agree with you mate. I was trying to educate Greb...as he had a little laugh when I mentioned my dog was a GGGG of Pye And, what does that matter, it could a GGGG out of chihuahua for all I know. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,478 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, C.green said: Its funny you dont see much off this on seagull thread lol ?eve was bred from 18 months old why do you think theres so many different lines go bk to her mate Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,311 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, mC HULL said: ?eve was bred from 18 months old why do you think theres so many different lines go bk to her mate Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,478 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, Daniel cain said: i havent a clue what that means mate lol Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,311 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: i havent a clue what that means mate lol All about the coin Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,478 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, Daniel cain said: All about the coin lol this was decades ago when you get a classy bitch you breed it mate and when it produces quality you breed it more and more Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, mC HULL said: ?eve was bred from 18 months old why do you think theres so many different lines go bk to her mate Eve n her sister both like cash point machines but what im saying is doesnt seem to be same whinging when there 3-4 even 5 generations back in coursing stuff that still seems relevant Edited August 14, 2021 by C.green Quote Link to post
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