what came 1st the grey wolf or the dog?

[Gypsydog94 4,612]

4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

I think it was when the ban come in mate straight away there was less fox in rural areas 

Definitely but even worse now. Thermal / night vision so easily obtainable. I know of 5 different people who all shoot the same 300 acres Everyman and his dog has 243 nowadays and a lot of them have no real reason to own one in my eyes. 

[mC HULL 13,400]

Just now, Gypsydog94 said:

Definitely but even worse now. Thermal / night vision so easily obtainable. I know of 5 different people who all shoot the same 300 acres Everyman and his dog has 243 nowadays and a lot of them have no real reason to own one in my eyes. 

Its silly mate isn't it no field craft needed  nothing sporting about it 

 

[Gypsydog94 4,612]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

Its silly mate isn't it no field craft needed  nothing sporting about it 

 

They have there place. But it’s boring as hell oh well. When the winter comes they will be tucked up in bed when they can’t drive the fields

[mC HULL 13,400]

5 minutes ago, Gypsydog94 said:

They have there place. But it’s boring as hell oh well. When the winter comes they will be tucked up in bed when they can’t drive the fields

[BIG TRG 785]

20 hours ago, mC HULL said:

Its silly mate isn't it no field craft needed  nothing sporting about it 

 

Not all about the sport mate a litter of foxes could soon ruin someone’s Livelihood and career, a few of the low ground bits we do the keepers stop shooting them once birds have learnt to roost as they do minimal damage once birds are in the trees, then he leaves them for sport with dogs 

[Black neck 16,162]

27 minutes ago, BIG TRG said:

Not all about the sport mate a litter of foxes could soon ruin someone’s Livelihood and career, a few of the low ground bits we do the keepers stop shooting them once birds have learnt to roost as they do minimal damage once birds are in the trees, then he leaves them for sport with dogs 

He should hand feed the foxes y the poults are small 2 prevent them causing havoc around the pens 

[BIG TRG 785]

13 minutes ago, Black neck said:

He should hand feed the foxes y the poults are small 2 prevent them causing havoc around the pens 

In an ideal situation for us dog lads yes mate I agree, but 5/6 litters on one estate would eat you out of house and home, it ain’t as practical as pulling a trigger. 

[Black neck 16,162]

8 minutes ago, BIG TRG said:

In an ideal situation for us dog lads yes mate I agree, but 5/6 litters on one estate would eat you out of house and home, it ain’t as practical as pulling a trigger. 

If your any good at it you can call all the foxes in from miles around and feed them on a fallen sheep.or hoss or summat all together saves time and is more efficient than going about at night shooting them 

[morton 5,368]

On ‎02‎/‎08‎/‎2021 at 19:13, mushroom said:

Does it matter? I find this conversation daft. It's been debated for years and years and the simple consensus (that everyone agrees on) is dogs are Lupids, so the same family branch as wolves. Which species they came from will never be answered. Imo (and it means sweet fa because I'm not a paleolithic veterinary expert) is probably all species of wolf have given rise to dog breeds and then the descendents have interbred over the millennia to get where we are. Same as humans

I believe it was Einstein that stated that if you keep asking the same question and seek different answers you are then insane.

[Black neck 16,162]

2 minutes ago, morton said:

I believe it was Einstein that stated that if you keep asking the same question and seek different answers you are then insane.

It was Oliver ried said that

[morton 5,368]

Just now, Black neck said:

It was Oliver ried said that

I am spartacus

[BIG TRG 785]

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

If your any good at it you can call all the foxes in from miles around and feed them on a fallen sheep.or hoss or summat all together saves time and is more efficient than going about at night shooting them 

A litter would devour a sheep carcass in a day. If it was as easy as that there wouldn’t be a fox left in the country, just my opinion mate, I’ve been keepering 10 years and wish that was realistically possible

[Black neck 16,162]

15 minutes ago, BIG TRG said:

A litter would devour a sheep carcass in a day. If it was as easy as that there wouldn’t be a fox left in the country, just my opinion mate, I’ve been keepering 10 years and wish that was realistically possible

10 years u barely out your apprentice ship get usen a fox flim flam flute 

[mushroom 13,237]

1 hour ago, morton said:

I believe it was Einstein that stated that if you keep asking the same question and seek different answers you are then insane.

Definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting different results

[Black neck 16,162]

3 minutes ago, mushroom said:

Definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting different results

That doesn't apply 2 Salukis and there crosses