Greb147 6,809 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 hours ago, gnasher16 said: Could it be a combination of the heat and bad sleep pattern ?.....palpitations can certainly spook you a bit i used to get these weird flutters that felt like your heart was going out of rhythm for a few seconds,is there any dizziness involved....when it comes to the ticker just get as many tests done as you can.....and stay off Google !! Don't think it's the heat mate, was grafting in London the other month, it was scorchio and it was fine. I've done nights before and never experienced it so god knows, surely to God it can't be this new protein powder with one of the ingredients in it? That's all that I can think of any different, feck knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, mC HULL said: They will only give you ecg and blood tests see if you have right magnesium etc If they are OK your sent packing my ecg was OK straight after heart attack The echocardiogram sees everything all chambers how its pumping any clots how valves are operating electrical currant much more in detail theres loads can go wrong surprised me watching Been a 34 year old in paper kept going giving him ecg blood tests sending him home ended up dropping dead Echocardiogram would a picked it up.straight away Thing is mate if the bloods and ECG are fine they would be very reluctant to do all that, they cost money at the end of the day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,194 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Thing is mate if the bloods and ECG are fine they would be very reluctant to do all that, they cost money at the end of the day. Thats it mate cost money I'd go bupa mate pay An hour out you day and few quid Before it happened to me I wouldn't have been to dr since 12 Now I'm there lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,279 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, mC HULL said: They will only give you ecg and blood tests see if you have right magnesium etc If they are OK your sent packing my ecg was OK straight after heart attack The echocardiogram sees everything all chambers how its pumping any clots how valves are operating electrical currant much more in detail theres loads can go wrong surprised me watching Been a 34 year old in paper kept going giving him ecg blood tests sending him home ended up dropping dead Echocardiogram would a picked it up.straight away Im not a cardiologist but i do know the normal order of investigation for such symptoms are normally ecg,echocardiogram,angiogram......least invasive first obviously......the issue i had didnt show up on an ecg or echocardiogram....only on an angiogram.....the way it was explained to a simpleton like me was echocardiogram is for the engine and angiogram is for the pipework 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Im not a cardiologist but i do know the normal order of investigation for such symptoms are normally ecg,echocardiogram,angiogram......least invasive first obviously......the issue i had didnt show up on an ecg or echocardiogram....only on an angiogram.....the way it was explained to a simpleton like me was echocardiogram is for the engine and angiogram is for the pipework Think my old man had to have that when he had a suspected minor stroke, is that where they inject dye in to your bloodstream so it will show up blockages? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,194 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Im not a cardiologist but i do know the normal order of investigation for such symptoms are normally ecg,echocardiogram,angiogram......least invasive first obviously......the issue i had didnt show up on an ecg or echocardiogram....only on an angiogram.....the way it was explained to a simpleton like me was echocardiogram is for the engine and angiogram is for the pipework Mine was crazy to watch when they took me in straight on table you could see on the angiogram the blocked arterie then the put the the sucker out er lol in me wrist pushed it to blockage I could see on it screen blood getting closer and closer to.the left ventricle once it got there the pain went was crazy to watch If you had blocked arterie I think they would still see on echo because heart is strained not pumping right mine took 4 weeks to return to normal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Don't think it's the heat mate, was grafting in London the other month, it was scorchio and it was fine. I've done nights before and never experienced it so god knows, surely to God it can't be this new protein powder with one of the ingredients in it? That's all that I can think of any different, feck knows. Check the ingredients greb,protein powders is a waste product,its dirt. Why not just eat 5 boiled eggs,far superior to powders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,279 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Think my old man had to have that when he had a suspected minor stroke, is that where they inject dye in to your bloodstream so it will show up blockages? Thats an angiogram mate yes....usually through either your groin or your wrist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Francie said: Check the ingredients greb,protein powders is a waste product,its dirt. Why not just eat 5 boiled eggs,far superior to powders. I have been eating eggs pal, just convenience aren't they. Sometimes first thing in a morning I don't fancy facing 5 boiled eggs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, gnasher16 said: Thats an angiogram mate yes....usually through either your groin or your wrist. They are risky though aren't they, at worst they can cause your ticker to go in to arrest? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,279 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Mine was crazy to watch when they took me in straight on table you could see on the angiogram the blocked arterie then the put the the sucker out er lol in me wrist pushed it to blockage I could see on it screen blood getting closer and closer to.the left ventricle once it got there the pain went was crazy to watch If you had blocked arterie I think they would still see on echo because heart is strained not pumping right mine took 4 weeks to return to normal It depends on your level of fitness mate im quite a fit chap ordinarily the basic 2 minute run on the treadmill they give you wasnt a big deal for me and so didnt show any real change.....yet was obvious on the angiogram. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,194 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greb147 said: They are risky though aren't they, at worst they can cause your ticker to go in to arrest? Only give me that when I was first in surgery and they were clearing the blockage after they inject a dye and you go in mri machine does same thing I think Angiogram is like like having an x-ray I think put a screen over your chest and it comes up on the screen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,279 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Greb147 said: They are risky though aren't they, at worst they can cause your ticker to go in to arrest? Theres risk to any invasive procedure though mate thats why they do it last i suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Greb147 said: I have been eating eggs pal, just convenience aren't they. Sometimes first thing in a morning I don't fancy facing 5 boiled eggs. Goodman,no there everything that you need for your body it supersedes anything. Whey is a by product of cheese making,they didnt know what to do with it years ago,so they pumped it into rivers an they grew algae,an ye cant flush it cause it clogs the drains lol So some brainiac thought up the idea to sell it to bodybuilders,theres all sorts of toxic shite in it plus the other cheap ingredients. Eat the eggs raw if your a wee sissy an cant eat boiled ones. Mix your eggs with heavy cream then the whole egg will be utilized. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,279 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: Only give me that when I was first in surgery and they were clearing the blockage after they inject a dye and you go in mri machine does same thing I think Angiogram is like like having an x-ray I think put a screen over your chest and it comes up on the screen Angiogram they inject dye through the arteries,you see it come up on the screen like road maps the cardiologist will literally point out the blockage to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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