Wolfdog91 7,239 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Y'all can save alot of money and just get a roll of chicken wire and make pillow traps Their super easy used to make them all the time takes like 10min the fist time and all you need is some rabbit cage clips or even just zip ties 1 Quote Link to post
Wolfdog91 7,239 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Any better pic of opening or is a funnel? How big, I got wire an ties here, not even expecting to catch nowt as don’t think they this far up river but deffo In me local river, so gonna try an see be summat for kids to do No more pictures haven't made into in a while, when I get home if I have some wire laying around I'll build one pretty quick and post pictures but here's a video of basically how I did mine. Only difference is I pained mine to help them deal with rust and I used rabbit clips instead of slip ties. And here's a much better version. I really liked this one but their Abit more work and cost compared to chicken wire. I added a bait cage in the middle of mine when I build these Since your craw fish are bigger I'd make my funnels Abit bigger Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,669 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: I’m on it Bet you got loads of off cuts of wire at work Quote Link to post
goldfinger 135 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 20/07/2021 at 09:46, MR TEA POT said: Yes mate very good eating. The problem is getting a license from EA they won’t issue any north of Birmingham due to small pockets of native crayfish. I had same problem up here in Nottinghamshire tried doing all legit but they wouldn't licence me,they gave a bag of sh-t reasons for not doing so. Red area only they will probably licence you if you apply. It was around 2 yrs ago that I applied. 1 Quote Link to post
Wolfdog91 7,239 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Wait I thought these were invasive you have to be licensed to remove an invasive species? Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,505 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: Wait I thought these were invasive you have to be licensed to remove an invasive species? I think they are worried about people spreading them around. Quote Link to post
Wolfdog91 7,239 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, gnipper said: I think they are worried about people spreading them around. I reckon that would make sense I'm just used to over here most invasives don't require any real liscense . Snake heads ,pythons ,wild hogs ,iguanas ,ect just require something like a basic fishing license or similar. But different deal over there. Quote Link to post
EDDIE B 3,166 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: Wait I thought these were invasive you have to be licensed to remove an invasive species? Because if they let anyone and everyone do it, idiots will end up catching and killing the native species thar are protected 1 Quote Link to post
goldfinger 135 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Wolfdog91 said: Wait I thought these were invasive you have to be licensed to remove an invasive species? This was there reason for refusal. Dear applicant Thank you for your application to trap signal crayfish. Unfortunately on this occasion we must decline your application. Yorkshire and its surrounding counties do not allow crayfish trapping due to risks associated with the activity. The three main reasons for this decision are.... The risk of spreading invasive crayfish and aquatic diseases through the use of traps and other equipment. Traps and associated equipment are excellent vectors for invasive crayfish and aquatic diseases to reach new waters. As they are usually left unattended underwater, they can be taken by uninformed or malicious parties and used between waters easily by people who are unaware of the bio-security risks. Impacts on our native White-clawed crayfish populations In Yorkshire we are lucky to still have populations of White-clawed crayfish and despite intense conservation efforts the species is still under threat. Signal crayfish can carry a disease which is fatal to our native White-clawed crayfish. This crayfish plague is spread by a fungus which can wipe out a population in a matter of weeks. There is also the risk of misidentification of species. Although crayfish can be distinctive, it is sometimes not as easy as it seems to identify species correctly. Trapping crayfish is often not an effective method of control and often leads to an increase in populations Research has shown that trapping signal crayfish targets the dominant males, this removes the top predator from within the signal crayfish population. This allows younger less dominant males to breed more prolifically, leading to a population expansion. Trapping is therefore often counterproductive. For further information on crayfish we suggest you visit the following websites which offer much more detailed explanations on the subject. Page not found | Buglife WWW.BUGLIFE.ORG.UK Check, Clean, Dry - GB non-native species secretariat WWW.NONNATIVESPECIES.ORG We hope this explains the reasoning behind our decision to decline your application. If you would like to discuss this matter further please contact us via the consenting email address (fmapplications@environment-agency.gov.uk) Fisheries, Biodiversity and Geomorphology - Yorkshire Quote Link to post
Ken's Deputy 4,460 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, goldfinger said: I had same problem up here in Nottinghamshire tried doing all legit but they wouldn't licence me,they gave a bag of sh-t reasons for not doing so. 1 hour ago, goldfinger said: This was there reason for refusal. I wouldn't call their reasoning a 'bag of shit'. They're desk jockeys, led by wader wearing scientists, all of whom are trying to keep shit by the book. What Is a bag of shit is that you will now probably pout, scowl and fukk off looking for another way to amuse yourself and maybe get a feed, or a few bob. Our beloved brethren of the 'Multicultural' persuasion, of course, won't be filling out applications or asking shit from anyone. They'll be camped out on the waterside. Laughing, catching, campfire cooking and feasting on What ever they can catch. Till it Is all gone. Then they'll go to the next spot. Because, after all; Who's gonna dare risk confronting that ole " Race Card "? The Real 'Bag of Shit' in the room is that you're a Brit, living in Britain. British laws only apply to you. 3 Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted July 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 23/07/2021 at 12:03, W. Katchum said: This one pal Yes mate that’s the one Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted July 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 8 hours ago, gnipper said: I think they are worried about people spreading them around. That’s why the DEFRA brought the new rule in about killing them at the site of capture to stop people spreading them about. I think it’s a bit too late though, signals are in most bodies of water in the uk, reaching as far up as Scottish highlands. Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted July 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 23/07/2021 at 13:37, big sid said: my buddie got me these when he ordered some they were five for £20 maybe shite i dont know but will give it a go. I wouldn’t use if the entrance is wider then 95cm, you could catch a otter then the sh1t would hit the fan, same as trapping without a license. Four guys got caught in Derbyshire trapping without license. Big fines and vehicles and equipment seized. 1 Quote Link to post
Nicepix 5,650 Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 hours ago, goldfinger said: This was there reason for refusal. Dear applicant Thank you for your application to trap signal crayfish. Unfortunately on this occasion we must decline your application. Yorkshire and its surrounding counties do not allow crayfish trapping due to risks associated with the activity. The three main reasons for this decision are.... The risk of spreading invasive crayfish and aquatic diseases through the use of traps and other equipment. Traps and associated equipment are excellent vectors for invasive crayfish and aquatic diseases to reach new waters. As they are usually left unattended underwater, they can be taken by uninformed or malicious parties and used between waters easily by people who are unaware of the bio-security risks. Impacts on our native White-clawed crayfish populations In Yorkshire we are lucky to still have populations of White-clawed crayfish and despite intense conservation efforts the species is still under threat. Signal crayfish can carry a disease which is fatal to our native White-clawed crayfish. This crayfish plague is spread by a fungus which can wipe out a population in a matter of weeks. There is also the risk of misidentification of species. Although crayfish can be distinctive, it is sometimes not as easy as it seems to identify species correctly. Trapping crayfish is often not an effective method of control and often leads to an increase in populations Research has shown that trapping signal crayfish targets the dominant males, this removes the top predator from within the signal crayfish population. This allows younger less dominant males to breed more prolifically, leading to a population expansion. Trapping is therefore often counterproductive. For further information on crayfish we suggest you visit the following websites which offer much more detailed explanations on the subject. Page not found | Buglife WWW.BUGLIFE.ORG.UK Check, Clean, Dry - GB non-native species secretariat WWW.NONNATIVESPECIES.ORG We hope this explains the reasoning behind our decision to decline your application. If you would like to discuss this matter further please contact us via the consenting email address (fmapplications@environment-agency.gov.uk) Fisheries, Biodiversity and Geomorphology - Yorkshire That refusal is pathetic. Its like saying that you can't have a car in case some unlicenced driver nicks it from a car park while you are shopping. And how many dominant male crayfish carry eggs? Because lots of the ones I caught on the Dearne had egg clusters. Thers is no wonder the rivers are in such a state with those clowns in charge. Quote Link to post
EDDIE B 3,166 Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 7 hours ago, MR TEA POT said: I wouldn’t use if the entrance is wider then 95cm, you could catch a otter then the sh1t would hit the fan, same as trapping without a license. Four guys got caught in Derbyshire trapping without license. Big fines and vehicles and equipment seized. I've had a few mink in the smaller ones. Unintentionally of course lol 1 Quote Link to post
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