Greb147 6,809 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, FLATTOP said: It’s submissive and to subjugate I just can’t get with it at all look at Kier Starmer when he got on his Knees could you seriously vote for a so called leader who did that it will haunt him for a very long time. I don't like it or agree with it but each to their own. Most are probably jumping on the bandwagon and don't have a passionate view on the matter but it is what it is, I'm not going to lose sleep over the matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,982 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 Take a knee comes from Colin kapernick the nfl player doing it during the national anthem before nfl games who was protesting about police brutality he was the focus of a Nike ad campaign absoultely b rate player 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MH1 1,873 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, WILF said: With all due respect mate, that’s the “get out of jail” bullshit they are spreading……we all know where it really came from What does take the knee mean? How people are using the gesture to show solidarity with Black Lives Matter | The Scotsman WWW.GOOGLE.CO.UK People across the world have been kneeling in silence to honour the memory of African American... Nice scarves 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,963 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Take a knee comes from Colin kapernick the nfl player doing it during the national anthem before nfl games who was protesting about police brutality he was the focus of a Nike ad campaign absoultely b rate player Can’t remember what they were chimping out about last time but as if I remember right they set fire to half of Croydon ! …….as they do ! Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,079 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, WILF said: If they were telling blacks to get on their knees in Rhodesia in memory of all the white farming families brutally murdered there would be a world wide outrage. It is what it is, let’s not pretend ! Ok.. that statement right there fella is a bit mad...if the white man hadn't chained him to till the land he might not have got a machete in the head... By the way how do you suggest that the white man got there in the first instance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,963 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 Just now, stop.end said: Ok.. that statement right there fella is a bit mad...if the white man hadn't chained him to till the land he might not have got a machete in the head... By the way how do you suggest that the white man got there in the first instance? He probably sailed there ? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,079 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, WILF said: He probably sailed there ? Correct...and let's be real honest here..you like it straight up.. he got off that boat and raped pillaged and scared the f**k out of them.. with shooting and real gruesome barbaric acts... Then chained him and his family raped his wife in front of him..sold his children then made him work the land he just stole? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,963 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, stop.end said: Correct...and let's be real honest here..you like it straight up.. he got off that boat and raped pillaged and scared the f**k out of them.. with shooting and real gruesome barbaric acts... Then chained him and his family raped his wife in front of him..sold his children then made him work the land he just stole? Whoa there Tonto, the African brutalised and sold his own people for slavery, we just took advantage and they were happy we did. They never wanted slavery to end ! Ill not apologise because Africa has only managed “bow & arrow” in 400,000 years ! Why should I ? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,568 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 31 minutes ago, stop.end said: Correct...and let's be real honest here..you like it straight up.. he got off that boat and raped pillaged and scared the f**k out of them.. with shooting and real gruesome barbaric acts... Then chained him and his family raped his wife in front of him..sold his children then made him work the land he just stole? Me and mates went to the isle of man once ...Sounds like you were there 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,079 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, WILF said: Whoa there Tonto, the African brutalised and sold his own people for slavery, we just took advantage and they were happy we did. They never wanted slavery to end ! Ill not apologise because Africa has only managed “bow & arrow” in 400,000 years ! Why should I ? Jesus fella..your way of the Mark...lol so it's ok to do that to people? Any colour race or religion you reckon? And I'm not looking for you to apologise for anything or anyone... You weren't over there doing this shit...but I seriously am trying to understand why you think its ok to try and justify it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,079 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Astanley said: Me and mates went to the isle of man once ...Sounds like you were there Nah.. I wasn't involved in any of the debauchery you participated in that night... I was just taking the pictures Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,963 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 minute ago, stop.end said: Jesus fella..your way of the Mark...lol so it's ok to do that to people? Any colour race or religion you reckon? And I'm not looking for you to apologise for anything or anyone... You weren't over there doing this shit...but I seriously am trying to understand why you think its ok to try and justify it I’m not trying to justify it, I’m just not apologising for it. I don’t need to argue about Africa with anyone, the proof is all there for all to see….make of it what you will. And what more I don’t need to kneel down or even support kneeling down because these guests in my continent can’t get their act together and stop being serial f**k ups. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,079 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, WILF said: I’m not trying to justify it, I’m just not apologising for it. I don’t need to argue about Africa with anyone, the proof is all there for all to see….make of it what you will. And what more I don’t need to kneel down or even support kneeling down because these guests in my continent can’t get their act together and stop being serial f**k ups. Exactly..so I don't kneel to no one.. I don't support or march for no one I get on with it percent like you do any many others.. same as this pandemic because I say or suggest things about the real roots of the problem which in reality is the rich educate write books and history and it's plain to see to Stevie wonder this last 15 year... I ain't hiding in no bushes.. or running about like Michael Jackson gloved and masked up and neither is any of mine... I just don't go fishing on here ... Just back from a great day with my youngest nephew and his first day on the water... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,963 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, stop.end said: Exactly..so I don't kneel to no one.. I don't support or march for no one I get on with it percent like you do any many others.. same as this pandemic because I say or suggest things about the real roots of the problem which in reality is the rich educate write books and history and it's plain to see to Stevie wonder this last 15 year... I ain't hiding in no bushes.. or running about like Michael Jackson gloved and masked up and neither is any of mine... I just don't go fishing on here ... Just back from a great day with my youngest nephew and his first day on the water... The little lad looks like he is having a ball, fair play, great photo mate Back on subject what I will say is this, there is a true saying and it’s this “give people enough rope and they will hang themselves” Once in a while these people present you with a gift….it’s goal so open its criminal to not score. A black university lecturer presented me with just such a gift a couple of weeks back and (imho) the footballers on the world stage have done the same for everyone else. They give you the opportunity to say “nah, just f***ing hang on a minute, I ain’t having this” Nowhere else other than this tournament, with world wide coverage , could we have said in front of the whole world “You can f**k off with all that, we ain’t having it” …….but we haven’t ! The lecturer was was telling my old community in England about how we all need educated about kneeling down, I responded, he thought he would be smart and offer to meet up and talk about it and I said fine…..I’m flying over and I’ll buy you a cup of tea and tell you why you are taking absolute liberties. And I’m doing just that next weekend. If he thinks he is getting some thick as shit EDL beer monster, he ain’t, if he thinks he is getting the indigenous Europeans forthright reply and put in his place, he is ! Never look a gift horse in the mouth ! Im sure loads of people think that’s a load of old bollocks and silly and farcical……maybe it is, I’m quiet used to being mocked and vilified by my fellow blokes, f**k all new there. Edited July 4, 2021 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,079 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, WILF said: The little lad looks like he is having a ball, fair play, great photo mate Back on subject what I will say is this, there is a true saying and it’s this “give people enough rope and they will hang themselves” Once in a while these people present you with a gift….it’s goal so open its criminal to not score. A black university lecturer presented me with just such a gift a couple of weeks back and (imho) the footballers on the world stage have done the same for everyone else. They give you the opportunity to say “nah, just f***ing hang on a minute, I ain’t having this” Nowhere else other than this tournament, with work wide coverage , could we have said in front of the whole world “You can f**k off with all that, we ain’t having it” …….but we haven’t ! The lecturer was was telling my old community in England about how we all need educated about kneeling down, I responded, he thought he would be smart and offer to meet up and talk about it and I said fine…..I’m flying over and I’ll buy you a cup of tea and tell you why you are taking absolute liberties. And I’m doing just that next weekend. If he thinks he is getting some thick as shit EDL beer monster, he ain’t, if he thinks he is getting the indigenous Europeans forthright reply and put in his place, he is ! Never look a gift horse in the mouth ! Im sure loads of people think that’s a load of old bollocks and silly and farcical……maybe it is, I’m quiet used to being mocked and vilified by my fellow blokes, f**k all new there. Spot on.. 2012 terrier work was to be banned on this great island.. I thought never... shit hit the fan..some stood up...some stood back and laughed... We were just normal men with terriers and morals.. Things GOT changed... So we aren't as far apart as we think. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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