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3 minutes ago, sid g said:

its simple for me i like football i like tourmant football formats so i`ll watch it ,, i can see beyond the one knee shit to enjoy it , 

Fair enough……as you have probably sussed out I don’t know what there is to see beyond it, it is what it is to me ?

 

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21 hours ago, WILF said:

I’m not belittling or deriding anyone, if anyone feels belittled or derided and they are looking at me then they are looking in the wrong direction imho.

I won’t get into all the “you ran away” nonsense, I have heard it from so many people on here it’s water off a ducks back to me now.…..if it helps them feel better then more power to their elbow mate.

It really is as simple as this, if other people are allowed to think it’s great then I’m allowed to think it’s bollocks…..nothing more complicated than that.

Everyone should be comfortable with where they stand on things and I am, I ain’t second guessing myself and I’m sure all the millions of people cheering it all on ain’t either ?

Ive no problem at all with you removing yourself from the problems of your own people....again,everybody reacts differently to problems and everybodys loyalties are different....my problem is you suggesting people are some sort of idiots for not doing the same......how many other areas of life infected by this illness can you remove yourself from before you are no longer participating in life.....dont you remember that saying " you can run but you cant hide "

Its not a case of what you " think " as most right minded working class chaps " think " the same......but the reality is your " im not watching them c**ts " stance plays straight into the hands of the adversaries you claim you are standing against and is a complete own goal.

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1 minute ago, gnasher16 said:

Ive no problem at all with you removing yourself from the problems of your own people....again,everybody reacts differently to problems and everybodys loyalties are different....my problem is you suggesting people are some sort of idiots for not doing the same......how many other areas of life infected by this illness can you remove yourself from before you are no longer participating in life.....dont you remember that saying " you can run but you cant hide "

Its not a case of what you " think " as most right minded working class chaps " think " the same......but the reality is your " im not watching them c**ts " stance plays straight into the hands of the adversaries you claim you are standing against and is a complete own goal.

You think I’m looking at it arse upwards and I think you are looking at it arse upwards…..I think they call that an impasse mate ! 
 

 

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13 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

That’s a bit far mate imho , you can’t sit and say to noise down when you yourself have said in here about going and knocking doors for candidates electorally and the need to speak to people . 
 

wilf is doing exactly that . 
 

you know yourself that all it takes in life is for one person to say “nah I ain’t having it” 

as for running away , you yourself have said it there but the clingers and followers on can chuckle all the want . 
 

my mate has 4 beautiful young children , that area he was in was going to the dogs , you know this . I don’t think it’s running away from anything to remove your family from that environment. Not at all . 
 

To be chucking a like at that when your living in Northumbria or Norfolk or gwent is like stamping on the knife stuck in a school kids ribs. 
 

 

I get the whole Siamese twin thing mate but Wilfs a big lad and its only the internet he doesnt need you backing him.

Wilf is making a lot of noise about avoiding a problem in society.... i make a lot of noise about standing up and confronting that problem....society wants lads like us to quietly go away,fall into the background while we are replaced....now if you honestly think that turning the tv off and sitting on our hands is the way forward on such issues then probably best we dont get into debate about it ?

 

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21 minutes ago, WILF said:

You think I’m looking at it arse upwards and I think you are looking at it arse upwards…..I think they call that an impasse mate ! 
 

 

Well lets have it out then mate you've had plenty enough swipes at the likes of me and ive not reacted so f**k it let it all out then.......... ive told you why i book you wrong for thinking that turning your telly off is setting some sort of precedent in the fight against anti white hatred so now you tell me why im wrong ?

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38 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Well lets have it out then mate you've had plenty enough swipes at the likes of me and ive not reacted so f**k it let it all out then.......... ive told you why i book you wrong for thinking that turning your telly off is setting some sort of precedent in the fight against anti white hatred so now you tell me why im wrong ?

Top class sporting events are all about revenue, no revenue, no event.

That means the game really does belong to the fans, if they don’t show, everyone is f****d from teams to advertisers to UEFA !

Fans have allowed them to hijack the game and it didn’t cost any of the people hijacking it a thing……the fans endure the f**k you, you swallow the message and it gin & tonics all round ! 
 

If not one single England fan had turned up, bought a shirt, watched on the telly the revenue stops……and the hijacking of something that belongs to you stops.

That would be world wide news.

In this instance you really do hold the power.

Turning up in 90 quids worth of shirt with the £75 ticket and buying the £6 pint while you look at the advertising hoarding of the 30 million quid sponsor to boo for 2 seconds isn’t having the slightest effect at all……you are there, you are spending and that’s what you have always done and that’s all that matters.

Doing what you have always done while people stick two fingers up at you isn’t a protest or a stand, it’s just plain daft imho mate.

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I love my football as much as the next bloke and international tournaments especially but I’m willing to forgo something I love if they are using that thing to abuse me……football need fans more than fans need football.

37 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

By the way Wilf im just curious.....have you been listening to the games on the radio or are you blanking football altogether now ?

Reading about the odd thing on the news, that’s it. 
I have been following local football, League of Ireland and playing a bit myself. 

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41 minutes ago, WILF said:

Top class sporting events are all about revenue, no revenue, no event.

 

Top class football was around before the advent of The Premiership.

 

41 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

Fans have allowed them to hijack the game and it didn’t cost any of the people hijacking it a thing……the fans endure the f**k you, you swallow the message and it gin & tonics all round ! 
 

If not one single England fan had turned up, bought a shirt, watched on the telly the revenue stops……and the hijacking of something that belongs to you stops.

 

 

" Fans " can be replaced at the drop of a hat the colour of yours or mines money is no different to a Chinese fork lift drivers or a theatre goer off the Fulham Rd we can be easily replaced by people who dont think like you and me and its naive to think otherwise.

 

41 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

Turning up in 90 quids worth of shirt with the £75 ticket and buying the £6 pint while you look at the advertising hoarding of the 30 million quid sponsor to boo for 2 seconds isn’t having the slightest effect at all……you are there, you are spending and that’s what you have always done and that’s all that matters.

 

Whether a couple of little white boys turn up to a West Ham game and buy a pint or not is totally irrelevant to the worldwide coin effecting the sport.........and again,we can be very easily replaced by people who dont think like us.

 

41 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

Doing what you have always done while people stick two fingers up at you isn’t a protest or a stand, it’s just plain daft imho mate.

 

Having watched footie all my life ive never seen players treat me like this before......so i have enough about me to know its not coming from them......when my grandson sticks 2 fingers up at me im clued up enough to know it didnt come from him....he was just the pawn used to upset me.

To me daft is falling for a double bluff......do you honestly think that not watching football anymore will rid the world of anti white hatred ?.....a big goal of anti white hatred is to strip white people of their traditions and culture....hence why BLM infiltrated football in the first place..........but you know all this you aint daft are you !

 

41 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

I love my football as much as the next bloke and international tournaments especially but I’m willing to forgo something I love if they are using that thing to abuse me……football need fans more than fans need football.

 

 Im sure you do....but if you cant see how you are being played then maybe you're not as clued up as i thought you was......THEY ARE NOT AFTER YOUR GAME THEY ARE AFTER YOUR IDENTITY !!!

 

 

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35 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

Reading about the odd thing on the news, that’s it. 
I have been following local football, League of Ireland and playing a bit myself. 

So you are willing to relinquish the very highest level of the sport you claim to love because of BLM and lefties.

They've got you mate !

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18 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

So you are willing to relinquish the very highest level of the sport you claim to love because of BLM and lefties.

They've got you mate !

They have definitely got one of us mate.

Could be me, could be you…..I suppose we will see how it all tops up some point down the line ?

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26 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Top class football was around before the advent of The Premiership.

 

" Fans " can be replaced at the drop of a hat the colour of yours or mines money is no different to a Chinese fork lift drivers or a theatre goer off the Fulham Rd we can be easily replaced by people who dont think like you and me and its naive to think otherwise.

 

Whether a couple of little white boys turn up to a West Ham game and buy a pint or not is totally irrelevant to the worldwide coin effecting the sport.........and again,we can be very easily replaced by people who dont think like us.

 

Having watched footie all my life ive never seen players treat me like this before......so i have enough about me to know its not coming from them......when my grandson sticks 2 fingers up at me im clued up enough to know it didnt come from him....he was just the pawn used to upset me.

To me daft is falling for a double bluff......do you honestly think that not watching football anymore will rid the world of anti white hatred ?.....a big goal of anti white hatred is to strip white people of their traditions and culture....hence why BLM infiltrated football in the first place..........but you know all this you aint daft are you !

 

 Im sure you do....but if you cant see how you are being played then maybe you're not as clued up as i thought you was......THEY ARE NOT AFTER YOUR GAME THEY ARE AFTER YOUR IDENTITY !!!

 

 

How did all the replacing us work out for the Super league mate ? 

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1 hour ago, WILF said:

They have definitely got one of us mate.

Could be me, could be you…..I suppose we will see how it all tops up some point down the line ?

Wilf i think you,ve lost the objective here you think this is all about money ?

Wealthy people collect money....Rich people collect power !

Do you honestly think the worlds richest people and global elites give a f**k about Sky Tv ?.....Sky Tv is watched by 12 million people,football as a sport is watched by 2 billion people....they are not after your sport mate they are after YOU !.....that type of riches has the power to effect lives they dont care whether you tune into England v Ukraine on saturday they care whether you call someone a wog,or whether you are up on trans gender rights and the nasty white people who enslaved others are target 1.

Who do you think the worlds most powerful corporations want watching the worlds most popular sport some feisty white " ooligan " off the Old Kent Rd or a nice " normal " beige colour family spreading " The Message "

They do not give a bollock for Sky Subscriptions for f**k sake its all about " The Message " and whether you will play ball or not and by looking the other way you are at best passing the problems on to the next generations or at worst quitting on your own people.

Again,if you want to do their job for them and vacate the community they are trying to replace you in then fine.....if you want to do their job for them and vacate the football grounds they are trying to replace you in then fine.....but maybe save calling people idiots until you've worked out whether you are a help or hindrance to the people you claim to be against ?

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1 hour ago, WILF said:

How did all the replacing us work out for the Super league mate ? 

EXACTLY !!!.....and did that come about from sitting on our hands and looking the other way ?

No.....when enough people made enough noise in a short space of time the big chiefs were forced into a re - think.

 

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3 minutes ago, sid g said:

just driving round the country theres flags all over people wearing the shirts and talking about england and football clubs at grass roots level have had an increase in kids wanting to sign on , kids on most street corners are kicking a football about , feel good factor about the place which is what we need after a miserable 18 month or so ... 

Can't be a bad thing mate?

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1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

Wilf i think you,ve lost the objective here you think this is all about money ?

Wealthy people collect money....Rich people collect power !

Do you honestly think the worlds richest people and global elites give a f**k about Sky Tv ?.....Sky Tv is watched by 12 million people,football as a sport is watched by 2 billion people....they are not after your sport mate they are after YOU !.....that type of riches has the power to effect lives they dont care whether you tune into England v Ukraine on saturday they care whether you call someone a wog,or whether you are up on trans gender rights and the nasty white people who enslaved others are target 1.

Who do you think the worlds most powerful corporations want watching the worlds most popular sport some feisty white " ooligan " off the Old Kent Rd or a nice " normal " beige colour family spreading " The Message "

Mate, I won’t convince you and what’s more I ain’t trying to, you asked me to explain my thinking and I think I did that.

As I said, we will see how it all turns out.

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They do not give a bollock for Sky Subscriptions for f**k sake its all about " The Message " and whether you will play ball or not and by looking the other way you are at best passing the problems on to the next generations or at worst quitting on your own people.

Again,if you want to do their job for them and vacate the community they are trying to replace you in then fine.....if you want to do their job for them and vacate the football grounds they are trying to replace you in then fine.....but maybe save calling people idiots until you've worked out whether you are a help or hindrance to the people you claim to be against ?

Now, I know before I write this you completely and utterly won’t agree but I’ll write it anyway.

I often have to read all this “ran away”, “quitting on your own” and all that, now, we all have different experiences and as such different views so here’s mine.

”My own” quit on themselves…..years ago ! 
I can tell you from absolute personal experience that if they were burning a lad like you at the stake tomorrow “your own” would be the first people turning up with the box of matches.

“My own” couldn’t give a flying f**k about themselves if they think it may cost them something in finance, discomfort or reputation……they would burn you in a heart beat if they thought it meant they wouldn’t get labelled with a nasty name.

Despite countless onslaughts and logic defying insults without number they continually fail to show any backbone or pride in them selves at all…….ever ! 
I have said this before and I don’t care if people think it’s a load of old bollocks or what, I never left England, England left me…..and it’s self for that matter.

Stop making excuses for them…..I did, years ago.

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