OldPhil 5,677 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) The Border Collie as a breed, is fairly varied in both type, size and shape, therefore,..when we see a variety of lurchers created from differing Sires and Dams,..there will frequently be an amazing array of miscellaneous examples. I've bred a few lurcher from Pastoral lines and whilst some have turned out racy,.whilst still looking like, thick set Greyhounds, a few have shown large chunky heads,... and taken on the look of a Bull Terrier hybrid It is only when you start to line breed a family of lurchers , or when they are bred, as a commercial project, frequently using the same Sires ad infinitum , that one starts to get a more uniform, end product... Personally, I preferred it when I found a nice working cur that had that certain something that attracted me, and I put him across a chosen, well used running dog type... The results were invariably, 'varied',..but it was always exciting... Edited July 4, 2021 by OldPhil 13 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, OldPhil said: The Border Collie as a breed, is fairly varied in both type, size and shape, therefore,..when we see a variety of lurchers created from differing Sires and Dams,..there will frequently be an amazing array of miscellaneous examples. I've bred a few lurcher from Pastoral lines and whilst some have turned out racy,.whilst still looking like, thick set Greyhounds, a few have shown large chunky heads,... and taken on the look of a Bull Terrier hybrid It is only when you start to line breed a family of lurchers , or when they are bred, as a commercial project, frequently using the same Sires ad infinitum , that one starts to get a more uniform, end product... Personally, I preferred it when I found a nice working cur that had that certain something that attracted me, and I put him across a chosen, well used running dog type... The results were invariably, 'varied',..but it was always exciting... Sock's Tegan... Firstly, another cracking photo Phil Just coming back to those bully looking collie crosses. I had one, back in the early 90's. The litter was a f1 collie/grey cross and a lad i knew took the biggest dog from the litter. All growed up, this dog had a cracking athletic/racy frame but with a head like a bull cross. Looking at him head on anyone would have thought he was simply that. At around 11 months his owner offered him to me and i gladly near snapped his hand off. I got him tuned in to me and match fit and took him for a night on the dunes. He was superb, and i came home real excited about the future with this dog. The next venture out seen him catch a couple, then drop to the floor and have a seizure. He came round and was groggy and i took him to the vet. Seems he had a fault on one of his hearts non-return valves and excitement or strain would cause blood to back flow and cause the fit. Thing was, i had no idea if it would strike on his first or 21'st run and once it came, it was home time. Sadly we parted company and he went to a pet home... Mack on the left, with a young collie lurcher... Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 I get asked or worse been told my dog got Bull in him. It doesn't bother me in the slightest as I know what in my dog and what he can do. 3 Quote Link to post
Gypsydog94 4,561 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rabbiting man said: I get asked or worse been told my dog got Bull in him. It doesn't bother me in the slightest as I know what in my dog and what he can do. It’s not anything to be ashamed of 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gypsydog94 said: It’s not anything to be ashamed of I'm not Quote Link to post
Gypsydog94 4,561 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Collie/bull/grey. 5 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,875 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Rabbiting man said: I get asked or worse been told my dog got Bull in him. It doesn't bother me in the slightest as I know what in my dog and what he can do. It's deffo got bull in it Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,875 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: You can tell if they got bull, they be decent if they do That kelpie o yours got a bullish heed 1 Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,784 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Deja vu Cheers, D. 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,875 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, dytkos said: Deja vu Cheers, D. A glitch in the matrix Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Black neck said: It's deffo got bull in it Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,709 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 I wonder if 'barking mad wildcamping' bill was right, when he reckoned most breeds of dog have got 'bulldog/bull terrier blood in em, from yeeears ago? Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,083 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, shaaark said: I wonder if 'barking mad wildcamping' bill was right, when he reckoned most breeds of dog have got 'bulldog/bull terrier blood in em, from yeeears ago? Technically most things with greyhound blood in, will carry bull dog blood from a long long time ago. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,709 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: Technically most things with greyhound blood in, will carry bull dog blood from a long long time ago. I don't think I'll agree with that, sheepy. With whippets, yes, but not the majority of early greyhounds. Indeed, if you research 'bull blood in greyhounds', there are a couple of early breeders etc, that totally refute that belief, as I myself am want to do. 2 Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,083 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, shaaark said: I don't think I'll agree with that, sheepy. With whippets, yes, but not the majority of early greyhounds. Indeed, if you research 'bull blood in greyhounds', there are a couple of early breeders etc, that totally refute that belief, as I myself am want to do. I honestly dont know enough about it mate. Just remember reading about .... Lord orford? Something like that? 1 Quote Link to post
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