fred90 3,204 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, LuckyLamper said: My pup has it she’s few generations of Beddy whippet and has a smooth coat but it’s not totally short and thick skin like the pup . I look like putting my first cross back to whippet, could well choose a smooth one if she throws any. 2 Quote Link to post
OldPhil 5,656 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) On 28/06/2021 at 12:40, Daniel cain said: Called a 'slape' coat...alot of the smooth patterdale types have it You are 100% correct on that fact Daniel.. Our best Sheepdogs all had that Slape coat, and I've bred a few lurchers with such a pelt. We always called our Welsh herders, Bare-Skinned, as opposed to the normal Border Collie coat... The Kelpie and the ACD have a similar style of short coat... Edited July 4, 2021 by OldPhil 1 Quote Link to post
fred90 3,204 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Called a 'slape' coat...alot of the smooth patterdale types have it didn't know it was called that. another good reason to put a Patterdale to a good working whippet. Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,086 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, fred90 said: didn't know it was called that. another good reason to put a Patterdale to a good working whippet. You struggle to see the skin when you try and part the hairs with the slape coats...skin like Kevlar underneath lol 1 1 Quote Link to post
Countryman62 541 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Daniel cain said: You struggle to see the skin when you try and part the hairs with the slape coats...skin like Kevlar underneath lol Had a slape coated black bitch off Ken Gould years ago, the coat was as stiff as wire wool, put a rough coated black dog to her and produced a dog pup with a fantastic rough hard coat, could handle the coldest extremities this country of ours could throw at it, there was a rumour going round that Moses would have found it easier to part the Red Sea than part the coat on my black bitch lol Edited June 28, 2021 by Countryman62 1 Quote Link to post
LuckyLamper 55 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, fred90 said: like the pup . I look like putting my first cross back to whippet, could well choose a smooth one if she throws any. Lovey dog! My pup is years of crossing f1 Beddy whippets together the litters would throw few pups like mine with a in between coat mixture of broken and short. Quote Link to post
fred90 3,204 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 have had quite a few over the years both generation bred and genuine first cross. my experience has been first cross seem to be more stubborn but a better nose. prefered generation bred temperament. 2 Quote Link to post
LamperNM 117 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, fred90 said: look good strong healthy pups. I have always favoured a rough coat believing it more weatherproof. then a chap pointed out a good thick smooth coat is better. he didn't mean like a whippet he said like the smooth collie coat. I think he had a point. Depends on the type of coat it’s got to be right.. I know exactly what he means as some types can hold onto the water Quote Link to post
LamperNM 117 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, LuckyLamper said: My pup has it she’s few generations of Beddy whippet and has a smooth coat but it’s not totally short and thick skin You can see the coat on this dog is pretty thick and by my eye that could stand a harsh night. 2 Quote Link to post
LamperNM 117 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, fred90 said: look good strong healthy pups. I have always favoured a rough coat believing it more weatherproof. then a chap pointed out a good thick smooth coat is better. he didn't mean like a whippet he said like the smooth collie coat. I think he had a point. Il never forget the night I took a whippet type lamping rabbits up the Scottish borders. We had 3 dogs this night a saluki lurcher type and a collie lurcher.. the wind and rain was on our side and the other two dogs not the whippets.. it really knocked the stuffing out the little bitch she had a few runs no kills.. before I had to carry her back to car baring in mind this was a fresh dog young and fit.. I’ve never favoured them since this night thin skinned fragile shivering things.. probably start something here but that’s my opinion 1 Quote Link to post
LuckyLamper 55 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, LamperNM said: You can see the coat on this dog is pretty thick and by my eye that could stand a harsh night. Yeah it’s quite thick now we’ll see how it stands up now come November 1 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,086 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Countryman62 said: Had a slape coated black bitch off Ken Gould years ago, the coat was as stiff as wire wool, put a rough coated black dog to her and produced a dog pup with a fantastic rough hard coat, could handle the coldest extremities this country of ours could throw at it, there was a rumour going round that Moses would have found it easier to part the Red Sea than part the coat on my black bitch lol My first black terrier was the same Quote Link to post
LamperNM 117 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, LuckyLamper said: Yeah it’s quite thick now we’ll see how it stands up now come November No doubt about that coat holding up. That bedlington blood just puts something to them and it certainly adds abit of fire to them best of luck Quote Link to post
LamperNM 117 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, LamperNM said: No doubt about that coat holding up. That bedlington blood just puts something to them and it certainly adds abit of fire to them best of luck I think aswell when you have one from generations you get a more versatile type.. rather then a first cross or 3/4 Breds I’d always go down to at least 3rd generation if possible when choosing this type 2 Quote Link to post
Countryman62 541 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Daniel cain said: My first black terrier was the same Nice tyke DC, looks a classic example of a working Terrier 1 Quote Link to post
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