Patterdale x whippet

[mC HULL 12,159]

4 minutes ago, Night Walker said:

Also it seems like there is becoming a shift in people’s attitudes to small terrier bred lurchers, the beddy whippet would be a few places down on my list if I wanted a whippet terrier cross. Russell pat or bull whippet from the right stuff would be my choice

lads bush ferret and lamp beddy whippets mate there capable runners  id have them above russel or pat or bull x whippet mate your limiting you quarry with them

[Greb147 6,809]

Isn't Trev's little dog off here a beddy cross, can't get better than that for a little un. 

Rapid off the mark and great around cover, what more do you want. 

[jackthelad 1,893]

That wee black bitch could do the same as a bed whippet did do the same job and it would try grab fish at the net as I said funny wee dog 

[SheepChaser 8,083]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

lads bush ferret and lamp beddy whippets mate there capable runners  id have them above russel or pat or bull x whippet mate your limiting you quarry with them

Ok so here is a question ? What makes a 17-18” Beddy x whip, a more capable runner with a wider quarry available to it, than a pat x or bull x or the same size? 

[Wales1234 5,489]

My pointerx speaks when it behind something in the day , and it suits me down to the ground

[chartpolski 23,099]

A friend of mine once mated a Beddy/Whippet with a top class working Patterdale to get some bushing pups.

They were bonny looking little dogs, but I couldnt see the point.

They were almost certain to drop in, so why not just get a Terrier ?

Being only a 1/4 whippet, they probably wouldn't have the speed to catch in the open, so why not just stick with the Beddy/whippets or whippets ?

Maybe they suited him, and it's only MY opinion, he was happy, so I guess they did what HE wanted them to do

Cheers.

[mC HULL 12,159]

4 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Ok so here is a question ? What makes a 17-18” Beddy x whip, a more capable runner with a wider quarry available to it, than a pat x or bull x or the same size? 

A Bedlington is a more capable runner mate already like a whippet a pat been bred as earth dog there going to spoil your day i think and a bull x whippet heavy things aren't they mate thats my thoughts 

[LuckyLamper 55]

I think the right pat put to a whippet bitch on the larger side of 20-21” would produce tidy little game dogs that would be fearless. I personally would love to see one in action around small fields and cover 

[poxon 5,718]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

A Bedlington is a more capable runner mate already like a whippet a pat been bred as earth dog there going to spoil your day i think and a bull x whippet heavy things aren't they mate thats my thoughts 

Why are you waisting your time explaining pointless mate

[SheepChaser 8,083]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

A Bedlington is a more capable runner mate already like a whippet a pat been bred as earth dog there going to spoil your day i think and a bull x whippet heavy things aren't they mate thats my thoughts 

Don’t take this the wrong way but I think most of that is based on theory not practice. Most pure beds I see would shit themselves at a big rabbit go and have a look at the terrier and the bushing section and see how many working beds you can find. All of the good old Beddy x whips and greys from distant years ago which are held up as great dogs, would have been bred out of beds that worked to ground. So your point re pats being earth dogs is a moot point to an extent. 
 

I could show you a pat dog that will stay for 12 hours, is taller than most beddys, natural retriever, great nose, loves water, great with other dogs eyx and will smash the granny out of what you point it at. I can’t see why sticking him over a whippet bitch would produce a less capable small runner for messing about with, than someone’s Beddy who once scared a rabbit out a bush it held one in a net. 

[Greb147 6,809]

Mc is right, a Bedlington is much sharper off the mark than a Patterdale and waay faster. 

We are talking of using one as a runner here. 

I'm sure some make handy dogs but so do beddy crosses and pure whippets. 

Just seems like another pipe dream to me and unnecessary.

As anyone actually got any footage of them doing the business? 

[SheepChaser 8,083]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

Mc is right, a Bedlington is much sharper off the mark than a Patterdale and waay faster. 

We are talking of using one as a runner here. 

I'm sure some make handy dogs but so do beddy crosses and pure whippets. 

Just seems like another pipe dream to me and unnecessary.

As anyone actually got any footage of them doing the business? 

Unnecessary? Lots of folk probably said that about the bull and the saluki. 
 

If it was all about speed, we’d all use greyhounds and whippets.

[Greb147 6,809]

Just now, SheepChaser said:

Unnecessary? Lots of folk probably said that about the bull and the saluki. 
 

If it was all about speed, we’d all use greyhounds and whippets.

Again, what do they offer that a good bedlington cross can offer as a runner?

Acceleration and speed matter mate at the end of the day even though other traits are beneficial.

 

[mC HULL 12,159]

9 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Don’t take this the wrong way but I think most of that is based on theory not practice. Most pure beds I see would shit themselves at a big rabbit go and have a look at the terrier and the bushing section and see how many working beds you can find. All of the good old Beddy x whips and greys from distant years ago which are held up as great dogs, would have been bred out of beds that worked to ground. So your point re pats being earth dogs is a moot point to an extent. 
 

I could show you a pat dog that will stay for 12 hours, is taller than most beddys, natural retriever, great nose, loves water, great with other dogs eyx and will smash the granny out of what you point it at. I can’t see why sticking him over a whippet bitch would produce a less capable small runner for messing about with, than someone’s Beddy who once scared a rabbit out a bush it held one in a net. 

I'm seen plenty a beddy whips mate good capable dogs fast enough etc 

I think beddy was always used sort rabbit dog mate and like been said alot quieter 

[SheepChaser 8,083]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

I'm seen plenty a beddy whips mate good capable dogs fast enough etc 

I think beddy was always used sort rabbit dog mate and like been said alot quieter 

Bedington terriers were originally bred as earth dogs unless I’m very much mistaken ........