Saluki's and their crosses.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,350]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

I'm not talking about legacies, I'm talking about running and catching hares. 

It's not just his style, the dog was given monster slips on top class hares and just oozed class. 

You are arguing about dogs you've never seen fella, I'm giving my opinion on the dog, from the footage I've seen of him I haven't seen better, if you can show me clips of dogs that you think are better I'm more than happy to give my opinion. 

 

Foxy. 

63 matches unbeaten back to back. 

Not on you tube though is she ?? 

 

[Greb147 6,809]

1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Foxy. 

63 matches unbeaten back to back. 

Not on you tube though is she ?? 

 

So you've made your opinion on reading some books mate?

What about the accounts that claim Lucky is the best they've seen, this is off lads in the game. 

She might have won 63 matches but how can you say she wouldn't have had one less victory if she faced Lucky? 

Again, I'm commenting on what I've seen on video, Lucky is the best I've seen from the footage I've viewed. 

That's all I can say with what I have 

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,593]

I suppose there were a few dogs running around the same time as lucky that were killing as many hares as lucky but it was his style that made him stand out 

[Greb147 6,809]

1 minute ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

I suppose there were a few dogs running around the same time as lucky that were killing as many hares as lucky but it was his style that made him stand out 

Can't that be said for other dogs though? 

How can anyone claim this and that is superior going off hares ran in different places at different times, it just isn't black & white like that. 

At the end of the day you are matching against the hare and not other dogs in reality. 

Maybe there has been better dogs than Lucky, who can say for sure. 

I'm only going off what I see with my eyes, it looked a very special animal. 

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,593]

Foxy a game bitch was almost guaranteed 2 or 3 hares most times out but not as nice to watch as lucky, she was not as classy but still got numbers, I suppose it wether you get your enjoyment from just getting kills or actually enjoying watching the course

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,350]

1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

So you've made your opinion on reading some books mate?

What about the accounts that claim Lucky is the best they've seen, this is off lads in the game. 

She might have won 63 matches but how can you say she wouldn't have had one less victory if she faced Lucky? 

Again, I'm commenting on what I've seen on video, Lucky is the best I've seen from the footage I've viewed. 

That's all I can say with what I have 

I've actually seen a few dogs straight from Lucky run over the years mate I made my opinions on the ground. Ill stick by every word Ive said.

 

1 minute ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

I suppose there were a few dogs running around the same time as lucky that were killing as many hares as lucky but it was his style that made him stand out 

You actually get the point Im making that the dog was a dog rather than a bitch  and a good dog to watch with his style. Hence he stood out.

[Greb147 6,809]

Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

I've actually seen a few dogs straight from Lucky run over the years mate I made my opinions on the ground. Ill stick by every word Ive said.

 

You actually get the point Im making that the dog was a dog rather than a bitch  and a good dog to watch with his style. Hence he stood out.

But you haven't seen Lucky run so again how can you say? 

Again, I'm not talking about his legacy from what he produced, I'm talking about the dogs capabilities at hare killing. 

What point, Lucky being a dog has no bearing on what I'm seeing with my eyes. 

My eyes tell me the dog was a class act and ate up those monster slips for breakfast against very strong hares. 

[mC HULL 13,880]

3 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

I suppose there were a few dogs running around the same time as lucky that were killing as many hares as lucky but it was his style that made him stand out 

i was told   lucky was like joe liked abit a give was a classy runner but when it come to the bottomless we’re not the same dogs swoop was suppose to be a strong runner with class nuttall stuff for example strong went bk to russ rowley smith wittleseas macs stuff all strong runners loved the wet 

 

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,593]

7 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i was told   lucky was like joe liked abit a give was a classy runner but when it come to the bottomless we’re not the same dogs swoop was suppose to be a strong runner with class nuttall stuff for example strong went bk to russ rowley smith wittleseas macs stuff all strong runners loved the wet 

 

From what I heard lucky was good in the slop but Gary told me joe preferred easy going half an inch of sink, when joe matched foxy heavy ground couldn’t do much with hares but foxy killed 2, it was pissing down the day joe matched foxy and Gary said joe hated the rain and wouldn’t run so good, he said when our for a walk if it was raining joe would curl up and put his paws over his eyes

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,593]

He blamed the rain for joe loosing the match as he killed 5/5 the week before when it wasn’t raining ? 

[mC HULL 13,880]

4 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

From what I heard lucky was good in the slop but Gary told me joe preferred easy going half an inch of sink, when joe matched foxy heavy ground couldn’t do much with hares but foxy killed 2, it was pissing down the day joe matched foxy and Gary said joe hated the rain and wouldn’t run so good, he said when our for a walk if it was raining joe would curl up and put his paws over his eyes

 

i heard joe was class in right conditions  same as lucky but your not herding like they did once’s it is bottomless i don’t think mate 

you need them relentless ones just keep slugging away brain and bottomless

[green lurchers 16,855]

4 hours ago, mC HULL said:

 

i heard joe was class in right conditions  same as lucky but your not herding like they did once’s it is bottomless i don’t think mate 

you need them relentless ones just keep slugging away brain and bottomless

With balled up feet lol bottomless

Edited December 24, 2021 by green lurchers

[green lurchers 16,855]

6 hours ago, mC HULL said:

 

i heard joe was class in right conditions  same as lucky but your not herding like they did once’s it is bottomless i don’t think mate 

you need them relentless ones just keep slugging away brain and bottomless

[The drover 514]

8 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Definitely as people kept thinking that they were going to get a dog the same regardless of what they took to him . 

I am fond of that lucky stamp of dog but there were too many jackers bred from him IMHO at the time and people are looking back with nostalgia , Lucky was running 20 years ago , there was  better dogs than him running at the time , Look at the calibre of bitches ran by Sankey alone and Lucky pales into insignificance. 

There,s been far better dogs than Lucky Since. You dont need to do the time warp 

I only have his excellent runs to go off  . Videos . It's the dogs brain I admire . I'm sure there were times where his style actually went against him . I personally run dogs out of romeo . So the bitches you mentioned of sankys are more to my liking . I reckon it's more the man behind the dog your getting at . Would I use Lucky over one of my bitches.  No pal . But I do admire him

[mC HULL 13,880]

9 hours ago, green lurchers said:

With balled up feet lol bottomless

i always thought they ball after a bit a bit rain and its sticky on clay land easier to stop but still be to much for a pair a whippets lol

in the bottomless a hare going 6 mins plus is 100 percent not balled up is it gl come on