Deerhunter1 771 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Black neck said: The mother was bred off the street accident I'm led 2 belive Can’t very well be be giving mothers any credit, where would the stud fees go? 1 Quote Link to post
scotty12 1,988 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Deerhunter1 said: Did the bitch not have a mother or did Lucas provide 100% of her genetics and hare catching ability all by himself? There’s a good possibility the bitch probably had a mother Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,513 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, scotty12 said: Heard through the grapevine that a bitch direct of Lucas was the best Bitch Robin and Marcus had see. With their own eyes what’s the craic with that ? Any truth in it was killing those hull bush hares like they were myxy rabbits supposedly lol hull bush hares i’ve had lads won’t run or slip because there getting smoked lol didnt marcus say the best hares he’s ever run are hull and scunthorpe ? 2 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mC HULL said: lol hull bush hares i’ve had lads won’t run or slip because there getting smoked lol didnt marcus say the best hares he’s ever run are hull and scunthorpe ? First time I went coursing to hull my dogs got well and truly beaten, saw some hares round hull & goole that were as good as any I saw on fens Edited December 13, 2023 by Deerhunter1 5 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,513 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said: I’ve got no shame in admitting the first time I went coursing to hull my dogs got well and truly beaten, saw some hares round hull & goole that were as good as any I saw on fens defo mate land on some real strong ones they been ran for decades regular day and night the fens you can get away with strong stayers most spots there spots this way you need everything speed gears be able to work them and have to be excellent around cover with a good mouth 2 Quote Link to post
scotty12 1,988 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, mC HULL said: lol hull bush hares i’ve had lads won’t run or slip because there getting smoked lol didnt marcus say the best hares he’s ever run are hull and scunthorpe ? That’s what I’m hearing from the the Auld boys house I was working at today just popped up in conversation about dogs and I could remember this thread when he mentioned Lucas he said top hares at hull and scunny says the Lucas bred dogs have been putting them away for fun on that land for years yet you were discarding the Lucas bred stuff as useless Quote Link to post
scotty12 1,988 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Deerhunter1 said: Can’t very well be be giving mothers any credit, where would the stud fees go? Old boy says it was his own Bitch he bought in no stud fees involved Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, scotty12 said: That’s what I’m hearing from the the Auld boys house I was working at today just popped up in conversation about dogs and I could remember this thread when he mentioned Lucas he said top hares at hull and scunny says the Lucas bred dogs have been putting them away for fun on that land for years yet you were discarding the Lucas bred stuff as useless Why is it always ‘Lucas bred’ or whatever when a dog does well, what about the bitches that produced them? It’s always been the way a stud dog lines a few top class bitches that would’ve most likely produced to any dog, then the owner of the stud dog takes all the credit for the pups & makes a fortune lining a load of useless bitches that shouldn’t be bred from in the first place Edited December 13, 2023 by Deerhunter1 1 Quote Link to post
scotty12 1,988 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said: Why is it always ‘Lucas bred’ or whatever when a dog does well, what about the bitches that produced them? It’s always been the way a stud dog lines a few top class bitches that would’ve most likely produced to any dog, then the owner of the stud dog takes all the credit for the pups & makes a fortune lining a load of useless bitches that shouldn’t be bred from in the first place I’m no too sure lad better off asking someone in the coursing game that question or wherever I’m just a neutral asking a wee question after some chat about dogs today with the Auld fella I met You still do a bit of coursing or just concentrate on your namesake ? what sort of coursing dogs did you run ? What lines were they from ? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,513 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, scotty12 said: That’s what I’m hearing from the the Auld boys house I was working at today just popped up in conversation about dogs and I could remember this thread when he mentioned Lucas he said top hares at hull and scunny says the Lucas bred dogs have been putting them away for fun on that land for years yet you were discarding the Lucas bred stuff as useless seen maybe a dozen or more from him not my cup a tea mate there’s lads with descent from him but put him 200 bitches a lot from the best breeding you’ll get a few good uns 2 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, scotty12 said: I’m no too sure lad better off asking someone in the coursing game that question or wherever I’m just a neutral asking a wee question after some chat about dogs today with the Auld fella I met You still do a bit of coursing or just concentrate on your namesake ? what sort of coursing dogs did you run ? What lines were they from ? No don’t do any coursing these days, chased them with a few different types, never had anything above average for hares, I’ve seen a lot better than I’ve owned put it that way 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,959 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Deerhunter1 said: Can’t very well be be giving mothers any credit, where would the stud fees go? Exactly there mere vessels in which pups are carried 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,505 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, scotty12 said: There’s a good possibility the bitch probably had a mother Born from a mother Quote Link to post
scotty12 1,988 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, mC HULL said: seen maybe a dozen or more from him not my cup a tea mate there’s lads with descent from him but put him 200 bitches a lot from the best breeding you’ll get a few good uns Law of averages I'd guess mate good and bad in any breed Would more say a lots down to owners of the dogs and how they manage them good stock men are good stock men Put joey Barton in charge of the England women's team they become average at best insert pep guardiola in the same position the lionesses become something 1 Quote Link to post
scotty12 1,988 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said: No don’t do any coursing these days, chased them with a few different types, never had anything above average for hares, I’ve seen a lot better than I’ve owned put it that way Atleast your honest about your dogs and being an average stockman mate, honesty is such a rare thing in the dog game as you probably know yourself Fair play Quote Link to post
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