Gilbey 1,434 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Greb147 said: it's a no brainer surely? It is, and you were asking the same thing at the start. If salukis were the answer everybody would have them. Folk keep them because they like them. Just a different take on a lurcher to some, and totally unsuitable for most 3 Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gilbey said: It is, and you were asking the same thing at the start. If salukis were the answer everybody would have them. Folk keep them because they like them. Just a different take on a lurcher to some, and totally unsuitable for most I know I have but it's interesting to me because to some folk it's not black & white like that as they say they can catch in the smaller fields. Isn't the coursing bred just a UK linebred saluki anyway, so it stands to reason that the pace for the smaller land can be found in the right pures, you just have to get the ones bred right. Quote Link to post
mush 204 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) I think any brindle greyhound taken over years ago by soldiers would have have died on the first run from over heating, i think thats why you always see saluki types in the old pictures. The saluki is a type not a breed bred to hunt what ever around, and its not all desert. Just like coursing breds over here. Edited January 21, 2022 by mush Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,556 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Bangersanmash said: Thal tell us owt Thas sat in arm chair playing wi thi bollocks Nonsense!, He's 3XL He cannot reach his spuds the size of his kite Trawling the slop is his only pleasure Them Fenland cafes must be dishing up some big old buckets of swill Quote Link to post
Bangersanmash 2,923 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Greb147 said: I looked into this subject (Brindle in Salukis) and my conclusion is, that despite the fact,that there are three genes which could and can mask the brindle gene kbr, it would be basically impossible to carry the brindle gene hidden for more, than one, or two generations. So, regardless how many old photos exist to show brindle Salukis, or Saluki type dogs in the middle east from 10-50-150 years ago, the brindle gene could only have survived, if it was bred continuously. It is impossible for the gene to reappear in the breed, after10-50-100 years of being dormant. One of the gene, which could mask brindle is, the dominant black, KB on the K (blacK) locus, is rare in the USA and Gr.Brittan and does not exist in Salukis in Australia, or I just haven't seen any so far in 25 years, or so. The second gene, the recessive black a/a on the agouti locus, also doesn't exist in Salukis. The only gene in Salukis, which could and can mask, and so carry hidden, the brindle gene in Australia is the recessive, or so called extention yellow e/e. This gene exist in Salukis, but because this is the only masking gene in existence in Salukis in Australia, the only way it could mask the brindle colour is, if recessive yellow e/e Saluki was to bred to recessive yellow e/e Saluki, which hardly ever happens, and definitely not for generation after generation, and especially not for 10-50-100 years. While theoretically is possible, in practice it could never happen. If a recessive yellow e/e Saluki is bred to any other coloured Saukis, including dominant yellow Ay on the agouti locus, which genetic make up have to be E/e, or E/E on the extention locus, or to dominant black KB Salukis, which would have to be E/E, or E/e in constitution on the extention locus discarding the mask gene EM at the moment, brindle kbr would be produced in the first, or second generation, if the recessive yellow e/e Saluki was a hidden brindle carrier, and even faster if the dominant black Saluki carried the brindle gene hidden as well KB/kbr on the K (blacK) locus. So brindle would be impossible to be carried hidden in Salukis for more than a few generations at the most, in a single kennel (with yellow e/e to yellow e/e mating all the time) and virtually, completely impossible in the breed as a whole! The dogs, which are known hidden brindle carriers, exist in breeds, which accept the brindle, black and different kind of yellow to red shades of colours in their standard, thus the brindle gene kbr, one of the black gene KB, or a/a and both yellow genes Ay and e/e must exist in those breeds! One of this breed is the Afghan Hound. Another one is the French Bulldog. And so on, but all these breeds hide the brindle gene only for one, or two generations, not for years, or tens of years. I mean, that is just absurd." You've got some time on your hands to be writing that down word for word off Google then coming on here Grebs like you've the knowledge honest to God am in stitches here. Quote Link to post
mush 204 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, mC HULL said: every so often 2 feathered will produce a smooth mate They shouldn't do but you do get mutations. Quote Link to post
Bangersanmash 2,923 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 And you've got lads commenting back to you defo fooled them Do you work for the kennel club lol Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, Bangersanmash said: You've got some time on your hands to be writing that down word for word off Google then coming on here Grebs like you've the knowledge honest to God am in stitches here. It's called copy and paste lad. I'm walking fit, ready to go Bangers. You need to be getting them calves ready for the big walk. Quote Link to post
mush 204 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said: You've got some time on your hands to be writing that down word for word off Google then coming on here Grebs like you've the knowledge honest to God am in stitches here. Think he just copy and paste it Quote Link to post
Bangersanmash 2,923 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Greb147 said: It's called copy and paste lad. I'm walking fit, ready to go Bangers. You need to be getting them calves ready for the big walk. I'm in gym on a night for a hour an half four times a week at trinity good old gym to be fair mate. Alot of cardiovascular machines in there sweat box too for after. Quote Link to post
Bangersanmash 2,923 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, mush said: Think he just copy and paste it A thought so got some time on his hands must only work once a week lol Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Bangersanmash said: I'm in gym on a night for a hour an half four times a week at trinity good old gym to be fair mate. Alot of cardiovascular machines in there sweat box too for after. Brilliant, no excuses then when you're panting like a greyhound after the first bend. Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Bangersanmash said: A thought so got some time on his hands must only work once a week lol Getting payed to sit at home lad, bliss. Quote Link to post
Bangersanmash 2,923 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Greb147 said: Getting payed to sit at home lad, bliss. Us tax payers ya cooonnnttt paying for thee lol Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, Bangersanmash said: Us tax payers ya cooonnnttt paying for thee lol I pay enough tax, you vultures robbed the country blind with your covid payouts, I'm just trying to even the score. Lol Quote Link to post
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