mC HULL 13,796 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, brambles said: You have any joy this morning mate be on land shortly mate Quote Link to post
brambles 3,309 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, mC HULL said: be on land shortly mate Best o luck, I'll have a walk out later on myself 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,796 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, brambles said: Best o luck, I'll have a walk out later on myself i’ll let you know how get on later Quote Link to post
Bangersanmash 3,520 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, mC HULL said: be on land shortly mate Thal tell us owt Thas sat in arm chair playing wi thi bollocks 1 Quote Link to post
Bangersanmash 3,520 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, shaaark said: There's a couple of people contributing to the pages on that particular forum/site, that used to be on here. LOADS of info on there. Which forums this on sharky Is bigliks on there ? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,796 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said: Thal tell us owt Thas sat in arm chair playing wi thi bollocks i don’t talk shit mate lads got a 3 hour drive over so why set off early hours and maybe sit about waiting for it to thaw abit plus hopefully most dog walkers are done and dusted Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,796 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 out checking land last night will be good and few on first field so be ok today i recon 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,929 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, shaaark said: Greb, google 'brindle salukis, saluki preservation. A bit of reading there, should keep you busy for a while. 11 minutes ago, shaaark said: There's a couple of people contributing to the pages on that particular forum/site, that used to be on here. LOADS of info on there. 5 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said: Which forums this on sharky Is bigliks on there ? Can't remember exactly, had it saved on my old phone, but the above post to greb, 'brindle salukis, saluki preservation' should bring it up. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,929 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said: Which forums this on sharky Is bigliks on there ? Brindle salukis - saluki preservation - tapatalk. Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just had a quick gander, yes, it's thought that brindle entered the gene pool from outside blood and thus should not be allowed. I can see their arguments on one hand but all dog breeds have been created by mixing other breeds, I mean, nothing is ever truly pure. I'm staying off that place, I prefer the raw insults on here. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,929 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Just had a quick gander, yes, it's thought that brindle entered the gene pool from outside blood and thus should not be allowed. I can see their arguments on one hand but all dog breeds have been created by mixing other breeds, I mean, nothing is ever truly pure. I'm staying off that place, I prefer the raw insults on here. What about all the other breeds that are brindle, surely they can't all be bred down from a brindle greyhound or bull terrier?! Lol. Basenjis, for example, originate from the congo, tan, tricolour, and brindle. Loads of dog breeds come with brindle colouring, can't all be descended from greyhound or bull blood. 1 Quote Link to post
mush 204 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Just had a quick gander, yes, it's thought that brindle entered the gene pool from outside blood and thus should not be allowed. I can see their arguments on one hand but all dog breeds have been created by mixing other breeds, I mean, nothing is ever truly pure. I'm staying off that place, I prefer the raw insults on here. The American KC allow it , cant see why you wouldnt be able to get brindle as you get brindle in most sighthound breeds. 1 Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, shaaark said: What about all the other breeds that are brindle, surely they can't all be bred down from a brindle greyhound or bull terrier?! Lol. Basenjis, for example, originate from the congo, tan, tricolour, and brindle. Loads of dog breeds come with brindle colouring, can't all be descended from greyhound or bull blood. I think the argument is that if they are not always throwing brindle it won't just lay dormant for years and years to emerge out of nowhere, they are saying that it must have happened relatively recently. Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 I looked into this subject (Brindle in Salukis) and my conclusion is, that despite the fact,that there are three genes which could and can mask the brindle gene kbr, it would be basically impossible to carry the brindle gene hidden for more, than one, or two generations. So, regardless how many old photos exist to show brindle Salukis, or Saluki type dogs in the middle east from 10-50-150 years ago, the brindle gene could only have survived, if it was bred continuously. It is impossible for the gene to reappear in the breed, after10-50-100 years of being dormant. One of the gene, which could mask brindle is, the dominant black, KB on the K (blacK) locus, is rare in the USA and Gr.Brittan and does not exist in Salukis in Australia, or I just haven't seen any so far in 25 years, or so. The second gene, the recessive black a/a on the agouti locus, also doesn't exist in Salukis. The only gene in Salukis, which could and can mask, and so carry hidden, the brindle gene in Australia is the recessive, or so called extention yellow e/e. This gene exist in Salukis, but because this is the only masking gene in existence in Salukis in Australia, the only way it could mask the brindle colour is, if recessive yellow e/e Saluki was to bred to recessive yellow e/e Saluki, which hardly ever happens, and definitely not for generation after generation, and especially not for 10-50-100 years. While theoretically is possible, in practice it could never happen. If a recessive yellow e/e Saluki is bred to any other coloured Saukis, including dominant yellow Ay on the agouti locus, which genetic make up have to be E/e, or E/E on the extention locus, or to dominant black KB Salukis, which would have to be E/E, or E/e in constitution on the extention locus discarding the mask gene EM at the moment, brindle kbr would be produced in the first, or second generation, if the recessive yellow e/e Saluki was a hidden brindle carrier, and even faster if the dominant black Saluki carried the brindle gene hidden as well KB/kbr on the K (blacK) locus. So brindle would be impossible to be carried hidden in Salukis for more than a few generations at the most, in a single kennel (with yellow e/e to yellow e/e mating all the time) and virtually, completely impossible in the breed as a whole! The dogs, which are known hidden brindle carriers, exist in breeds, which accept the brindle, black and different kind of yellow to red shades of colours in their standard, thus the brindle gene kbr, one of the black gene KB, or a/a and both yellow genes Ay and e/e must exist in those breeds! One of this breed is the Afghan Hound. Another one is the French Bulldog. And so on, but all these breeds hide the brindle gene only for one, or two generations, not for years, or tens of years. I mean, that is just absurd." Quote Link to post
mush 204 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 Brindle Salukis WWW.PINTEREST.CO.UK Oct 28, 2019 - Brindle Salukis from our kennel. See more ideas about brindle, kennel, animals. 1 Quote Link to post
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