Saluki's and their crosses.

[green lurchers 16,695]

7 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i agree some charts but you get it dead a winter wet land 200yd slip i’d be amaze if the non ped  got there first sprinters that run hard just sink 

Non ped and a modern coursing grey will take the run up  I’ve owned a ped whips that would lead up your slop plodders  and be scoring points while your setting your watch at 4 mins on good ground I know it pains ya but shit happens

Edited December 30, 2021 by green lurchers

[mC HULL 12,610]

1 minute ago, green lurchers said:

Non ped and a modern coursing grey will take the run up  I’ve owned a ped whip that would lead up your slop plodders  and be scoring points while your setting your watch at 4 mins on good ground I know it pains ya but shit happens

good ground gl me dog will take em on the run up mate one after the other there easy work in the right conditions mate for a half descent courser 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

15 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I thought creating lurchers for certain jobs was to get the best of both worlds; 

Saluki/Greyhound......the speed of one, the stamina of the other.

Collie/grey..........the brains of one, the speed of the other

Whippet/grey, in the case of non-ped racers, the speed of one, the size of the other.

Of course it rarely works out like that, and if you're unlucky you end up with the speed of the collie and the brains of the greyhound ! !

Cheers.

I think that greyhound blood is massively underrated in what it brings to a running dog. 

[chartpolski 23,718]

12 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i agree some charts but you get it dead a winter wet land 200yd slip i’d be amaze if the non ped  got there first sprinters that run hard just sink 

I like our little chats, and I appreciate and respect your opinions, but you will never agree that a non-ped is faster than a coursing bred on the run up. Which honestly makes me feel you've never seen a non-ped racing Whippet run a hare.

Dont mistake a first cross Whippet/grey with a purpose bred non-ped, that would be like equating a first cross Saluki/grey with a purpose bred coursing dog.

We used to run non-pets regularly on hares, but these days I don't know many who do, they far prefer the racing, but maybe some day I'll borrow one and we could have a run or two, it may just change your opinion

I said in another post I was generalising, not taking conditions or grounds into consideration.

Cheers.

 

[green lurchers 16,695]

3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

good ground gl me dog will take em on the run up mate one after the other there easy work in the right conditions mate for a half descent courser 

 But the situation is leading up not how outstanding your dogs are 

[green lurchers 16,695]

I seen plenty of all sorts pre ban  but 4 mins boring  non ped coursing grey and a few peds will lead you up except the pain lol 

Edited December 30, 2021 by green lurchers

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1 minute ago, green lurchers said:

 But the situation is leading up not how outstanding your dogs are 

Y int it

[mC HULL 12,610]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I like our little chats, and I appreciate and respect your opinions, but you will never agree that a non-ped is faster than a coursing bred on the run up. Which honestly makes me feel you've never seen a non-ped racing Whippet run a hare.

Dont mistake a first cross Whippet/grey with a purpose bred non-ped, that would be like equating a first cross Saluki/grey with a purpose bred coursing dog.

We used to run non-pets regularly on hares, but these days I don't know many who do, they far prefer the racing, but maybe some day I'll borrow one and we could have a run or two, it may just change your opinion

I said in another post I was generalising, not taking conditions or grounds into consideration.

Cheers.

 

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11 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I like our little chats, and I appreciate and respect your opinions, but you will never agree that a non-ped is faster than a coursing bred on the run up. Which honestly makes me feel you've never seen a non-ped racing Whippet run a hare.

Dont mistake a first cross Whippet/grey with a purpose bred non-ped, that would be like equating a first cross Saluki/grey with a purpose bred coursing dog.

We used to run non-pets regularly on hares, but these days I don't know many who do, they far prefer the racing, but maybe some day I'll borrow one and we could have a run or two, it may just change your opinion

I said in another post I was generalising, not taking conditions or grounds into consideration.

Cheers.

 

To be fair to what your saying I’ve only seen a whippet greyhound run against a coursing dog on tape in the winter and it was a good 200 or possibly 300 yard slip and the whip grey left the coursing dog for dead on the run up, the whippet greyhound had racing lines in called country music I think and it was Lal hardys dog if I remember rightly 

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19 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

I think that greyhound blood is massively underrated in what it brings to a running dog. 

What does it bring apart from speed and a whole host of negative attributes like, bad feet, no brain, bad stamina, injury prone 

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10 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

To be fair to what your saying I’ve only seen a whippet greyhound run against a coursing dog on tape in the winter and it was a good 200 or possibly 300 yard slip and the whip grey left the coursing dog for dead on the run up, the whippet greyhound had racing lines in called country music I think and it was Lal hardys dog if I remember rightly 

Country Music was a top racer and stud dog.

Hes in the lines of many non-peds and lurchers. He was in Markbicks Kat, a class little lurcher bitch.

Cheers..

[Greb147 6,809]

11 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

What does it bring apart from speed and a whole host of negative attributes like, bad feet, no brain, bad stamina, injury prone 

I know what you're saying but you don't think that added speed can give coursing types a kick up the backside? 

Didn't Lucky have greyhound not far back in his pedigree, I'm sure other good dogs have too? 

It's the same with dogs like Seagull, didn't it have Bedlington in the line? 

You don't think it had a bearing on how they turned out, maybe it was just a case of good dog men line breeding  the best hare killers and the results would have been the same had they just used pure saluki.

Edited December 30, 2021 by Greb147

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3 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I know what you're saying but you don't think that added speed can give coursing types a kick up the backside? 

Didn't Lucky have greyhound not far back in his pedigree, I'm sure other good dogs have too? 

It's the same with dogs like Seagull, didn't it have Bedlington in there in the line? 

You don't think it had a bearing of how they turned out, maybe it was just a case of good dogmen lining the best hare killers and the results would have been the same had they just used pure saluki.

Nah lucky had all sorts and pains the masses 

Edited December 30, 2021 by green lurchers

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1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

I know what you're saying but you don't think that added speed can give coursing types a kick up the backside? 

Didn't Lucky have greyhound not far back in his pedigree, I'm sure other good dogs have too? 

It's the same with dogs like Seagull, didn't it have Bedlington in there in the line? 

You don't think it had a bearing of how they turned out, maybe it was just a case of good dogmen lining the best hare killers and the results would have been the same had they just used pure saluki.

Luckys sire joe was out of a first cross saluki greyhound so I think you can get away with a quarter greyhound at most if coursing is your game but anymore and the negatives outweigh the positive 

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1 minute ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

Luckys sire joe was out of a first cross saluki greyhound so I think you can get away with a quarter greyhound at most if coursing is your game but anymore and the negatives outweigh the positive 

You are more in to breeding these dogs than many on here, have you or do you know of any lads ever going back to greyhound before going back in to saluki or another coursing type after things have started getting stale?