Saluki's and their crosses.

[green lurchers 16,855]

11 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

he hasnt advanced from the whippet yet still stuck on level one 

Do you mean do I like to see a hare at its best on ground more suitable  yes I’d rather stick hot needles in me eyes than watch a run on slop where a hares speed is blunted and it becomes a heart popper 

[mC HULL 13,873]

2 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

Do you mean do I like to see a hare at its best on ground more suitable  yes I’d rather stick hot needles in me eyes than watch a run on slop where a hares speed is blunted and it becomes a heart popper 

heart popper for what the whippet mate 

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,593]

5 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

Do you mean do I like to see a hare at its best on ground more suitable  yes I’d rather stick hot needles in me eyes than watch a run on slop where a hares speed is blunted and it becomes a heart popper 

If a hares speed is blunted on the slop a whippet should catch them easy in them conditions then ? I honestly can’t believe your serious 

[Black neck 16,262]

2 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

If a hares speed is blunted on the slop a whippet should catch them easy in them conditions then ? I honestly can’t believe your serious 

The slop whippet rules supreme 

[green lurchers 16,855]

9 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

If a hares speed is blunted on the slop a whippet should catch them easy in them conditions then ? I honestly can’t believe your serious 

You rule of science n facts isn’t working out for ya is it now I get the bit you both want to stack the odds against the hare even more with running in slop. Good luck but your missing out on real running go ask your multitude of experienced slop bashers 

Edited December 24, 2021 by green lurchers

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,593]

3 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

You rule of science n facts isn’t working out for ya is it now 

Merry Christmas

[green lurchers 16,855]

2 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

Merry Christmas

And same to you

[The drover 514]

I think we're missing a point here . On any given day real heavy ground can turn to good going in 6 hours . If we are to have top animals then they need to be able to run on any conditions underfoot.  That's a true dog imo . However imho the heavier the ground the tougher the shift . Look at it this way . Try cross country running on good going.  And then along sand dunes . You will know . But a plough lizard will struggle on bald grass ... fact . Greatest saying ever ... horse's for  courses.  Merry Xmas 

Edited December 25, 2021 by The drover

[Westyorkshire_lad 402]

On the firmer ground yes you will see a faster course hare and dog will hit faster speeds , on the wetter ground if you took both same hare and dog you will see a totally different course and yes it will be tough going for both but the hare will have advantage due to dog being more heavier to get across ,some dogs run well on the firmer ground but don't do well on the wetter land and vice versa. good dog will handle whats ever put in front on any land .

A lad I know runs a saluki whippet grey bitch she does realy well on the firmer ground she a fast attacking dog but on the wet land or plough realy struggles. 

Every course is different as you don't know what you getting until you slip thats what makes it interesting iv seen hares come up from plough and straight line dogs and other fold in 2 bends on the firmer land. Atb merry xmas 

[Greb147 6,809]

Here's a question for you. 

Many lads claim that their smaller and lighter dogs struggle more on the bottomless ground, the lad who's pup I was going to buy said the same about his bitch. 

He said she struggled more relative to other dogs on the soft ground as she didn't have the power to plough through.

But surely on the softer ground it should be the opposite, the heavier dog will sink more than a lighter dog which will take more out of them. 

 

[Havelightforcewilltravel 417]

26 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Here's a question for you. 

Many lads claim that their smaller and lighter dogs struggle more on the bottomless ground, the lad who's pup I was going to buy said the same about his bitch. 

He said she struggled more relative to other dogs on the soft ground as she didn't have the power to plough through.

But surely on the softer ground it should be the opposite, the heavier dog will sink more than a lighter dog which will take more out of them. 

 

Bigger dogs have more power it’s finer built dogs that seem to struggle some not all a prefer bigger stronger type 27tts and over but got bitch here 25tts and she still manages on heavy going but she got good bone structure strong built.That’s my take on it people make disagree though.

[Greb147 6,809]

1 minute ago, Havelightforcewilltravel said:

Bigger dogs have more power it’s finer built dogs that seem to struggle some not all a prefer bigger stronger type 27tts and over but got bitch here 25tts and she still manages on heavy going but she got good bone structure strong built.That’s my take on it people make disagree though.

True mate, they have more power but they are also heavier which in theory should negate that strength advantage. 

As you know the softer ground gives the lighter hare an advantage but why isn't it the same for dogs?

Just a thought that provokes interest. 

[Havelightforcewilltravel 417]

26 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

True mate, they have more power but they are also heavier which in theory should negate that strength advantage. 

As you know the softer ground gives the lighter hare an advantage but why isn't it the same for dogs?

Just a thought that provokes interest. 

A think with hare weight been average 4 kilo no doubt il be corrected on that and smallest lurcher coursing type weighing 24 ish kilo and bigger type 32 kilo the hare does not realy sink in compared to dogs yet the bigger dogs have strength to pull out of heavier going.Hope that makes sense.A have see couple light framed little bitchs manage on heavy going but knew they had had run at end.

[mushroom 13,304]

On 23/12/2021 at 13:48, Black neck said:

Yeah the never show um running off and raiding the bins at the back o the school ,they all do it dunt they 

Don't they

Or hawking a chicken bone up, along with the rest of their stomach contents at 3am because the mrs left the kitchen door open and they’ve bin raided

[Greb147 6,809]

29 minutes ago, Havelightforcewilltravel said:

A think with hare weight been average 4 kilo no doubt il be corrected on that and smallest lurcher coursing type weighing 24 ish kilo and bigger type 32 kilo the hare does not realy sink in compared to dogs yet the bigger dogs have strength to pull out of heavier going.Hope that makes sense.A have see couple light framed little bitchs manage on heavy going but knew they had had run at end.

Good theory mate but even a 8kg difference is massive in dogs isn't it, you'd think that it would have a bearing on the bottomless ground. 

As you know yourself mate nothing is ever black & white with dogs.