green lurchers 16,667 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sandymere said: The genetics are what they are, the Moroccans ruled are large part of Spain for centuries hence Galgos and Sloughis being closely related. Spain was invaded more than any other country maybe for the galgos blood Edited June 15, 2021 by green lurchers 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,540 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, TOMO said: lets start at the beginning.....lol...... first of all that aint spain its south america....you might think so what....but they are European brown hares not Iberian... theres 4 dogs at one point on a hare.... that vid is not going to convince me that our british dogs might struggle in spain... i would love for our dogs to be superior....of course i would....i just dont believe you can say they are by watching spanish galgos on vid in spain.....you would have to go there and do it...to know for sure a sloughi looks like a saluki mate a galgos looks like a greyhound 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,540 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 The Galgo has a long history. Their ancestors can be traced back to ancient Egypt, Asia and Celtic Europeans, as far back as 8 A.D. Greyhounds, in general, are often referred to as one of the oldest purebred dogs i wonder what ancestor can be traced back to ancient egypt Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 Caravan hounds. These dogs spread across the world as the people did. They took their dogs and their horses. It is a story as old as time. Quote Link to post
green lurchers 16,667 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, mC HULL said: the spectacle was for the rich mate any one else was a hunter Rich Arabs Medes Persians didn’t own Salukis ? Arrian quote you kill hares dropped or watever we course fir the love of sport killings easy Edited June 15, 2021 by green lurchers Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,540 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 i dont know mate obviuosly nomads did travelled all over thats why saluki blood everywere but any leaders also come from these tribes mate Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,540 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 In modern-day Saudi Arabia, the Saluki is still revered to by many as “The Dog of Kings.” Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,663 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, mC HULL said: a sloughi looks like a saluki mate a galgos looks like a greyhound mC, I don't want to sound condescending or patronising, but Morocco is in North Africa, Saudi is the Arabian peninsula, many, many miles apart. Saudi is Arab, and has only existed as a country for less than 100 years, Morocco is also Arab, but also Berber, Touareg and african. Even the Arabic they speak is different. But down to dogs; North Africa has its sloughis and azawhaks, head east into the Fertile Crescent , Persia, (Iran) and the Arabian peninsula and they have their Salukis, go north a bit into the Caucasus region and you'll find tazi, Afghan hound, go further north into Russia and the Eurasian steppes and you get the borzoi and the Horta, turn West into Eastern Europe and you'll find the chartpolski, the Magyar agar, amongst others. Then into Western Europe and you get the galgo, grey hound, whippet etc. I could go on to India, china and points east for their running type dogs, but I'm sure you get my gist. Anyhow, if you go far enough back in time, all these dogs will have had a common ancestor, but time , climate, conditions, quarry and selective breeding has honed them into the individual breeds they now are. And so endeth the lesson ! ! Cheers. 6 1 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, mC HULL said: The Galgo has a long history. Their ancestors can be traced back to ancient Egypt, Asia and Celtic Europeans, as far back as 8 A.D. Greyhounds, in general, are often referred to as one of the oldest purebred dogs i wonder what ancestor can be traced back to ancient egypt Lol wheres that from the boys book of doggies lol, there's a lot of tosh written about sighthounds but thankfully genetics are sorting the wheat from the chaff. The sighthounds in general are all whats known as ancient breeds meaning they have no other ancestor within their genetic makeup, other than the greyhound which although old is developed from a collie type likely at the time the hare was introduced to Britain by the Romans. The Romans likely brought ancient sighthounds with them, quite possibly galgos as their were Spanish legions in northern Europe and they extolled their value in their writings but not enough to leave a genetic trace. The locals thought we'll have some of that and set about creating their own sighthound and develop the fastest dog ever bred, the English greyhound. Edited June 15, 2021 by sandymere 1 1 Quote Link to post
green lurchers 16,667 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, mC HULL said: In modern-day Saudi Arabia, the Saluki is still revered to by many as “The Dog of Kings.” I don’t doubt that but if you go Mid East youl struggle to see a run thers fk all left maybe if you kniw a prince youl get to see action it might be dropped tho if you go North Africa they ditched dogs and use ak 47 to feed thers fk all ther as well , will add I see gazelle in Abu Dhabi but they were off sharpish think they thought I was driving your motor lol but if anyone sets out to catch them other than the royals you doing a stretch b*****ds them rich cnts eh lol Edited June 15, 2021 by green lurchers 2 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, mC HULL said: is there lads here sandy with galsos what are daytime dogs There's a few now and some just starting but not enough to get a decent genetic base. I've gotten a stud agreed for future use that has a bit of size which I like, both my youngsters are only 24" but might still bring on over in the future. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,787 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, chartpolski said: mC, I don't want to sound condescending or patronising, but Morocco is in North Africa, Saudi is the Arabian peninsula, many, many miles apart. Saudi is Arab, and has only existed as a country for less than 100 years, Morocco is also Arab, but also Berber, Touareg and african. Even the Arabic they speak is different. But down to dogs; North Africa has its sloughis and azawhaks, head east into the Fertile Crescent , Persia, (Iran) and the Arabian peninsula and they have their Salukis, go north a bit into the Caucasus region and you'll find tazi, Afghan hound, go further north into Russia and the Eurasian steppes and you get the borzoi and the Horta, turn West into Eastern Europe and you'll find the chartpolski, the Magyar agar, amongst others. Then into Western Europe and you get the galgo, grey hound, whippet etc. I could go on to India, china and points east for their running type dogs, but I'm sure you get my gist. Anyhow, if you go far enough back in time, all these dogs will have had a common ancestor, but time , climate, conditions, quarry and selective breeding has honed them into the individual breeds they now are. And so endeth the lesson ! ! Cheers. Very erudite, oh great sage! 2 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,707 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 have a read Saluki - Wikipedia Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, green lurchers said: I don’t doubt that but if you go Mid East youl struggle to see a run thers fk all left maybe if you kniw a prince youl get to see action it might be dropped tho if you go North Africa they ditched dogs and use ak 47 to feed thers fk all ther as well , will add I see gazelle in Abu Dhabi but they were off sharpish think they thought I was driving your motor lol but if anyone sets out to catch them other than the royals you doing a stretch b*****ds them rich cnts eh lol Still plenty of game in some parts of North Africa/Mediterranean basin I was offered a job in a hospital out there and one of the sweeteners was going out with the managers brother and his sloughi/lurchers and having my own dogs. I like the dog bit but didn't fancy leaving my family for weeks at a time. His brother is a decent sort though and I keep in contact with them just to see what they're up to . Edited June 15, 2021 by sandymere Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,540 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, chartpolski said: mC, I don't want to sound condescending or patronising, but Morocco is in North Africa, Saudi is the Arabian peninsula, many, many miles apart. Saudi is Arab, and has only existed as a country for less than 100 years, Morocco is also Arab, but also Berber, Touareg and african. Even the Arabic they speak is different. But down to dogs; North Africa has its sloughis and azawhaks, head east into the Fertile Crescent , Persia, (Iran) and the Arabian peninsula and they have their Salukis, go north a bit into the Caucasus region and you'll find tazi, Afghan hound, go further north into Russia and the Eurasian steppes and you get the borzoi and the Horta, turn West into Eastern Europe and you'll find the chartpolski, the Magyar agar, amongst others. Then into Western Europe and you get the galgo, grey hound, whippet etc. I could go on to India, china and points east for their running type dogs, but I'm sure you get my gist. Anyhow, if you go far enough back in time, all these dogs will have had a common ancestor, but time , climate, conditions, quarry and selective breeding has honed them into the individual breeds they now are. And so endeth the lesson ! ! Cheers. north africa charts aye lol but muslim mate good read of differengt types mate Saluqis in the Countries of Origin - The Arabian Peninsula WWW.SALUQI.NET Quote Link to post
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