Clarkson’s farm

[SINDASOX 256]

43 minutes ago, dillydog said:

I was down his way once having a red letter day with the terriers,  he wanted to come and watch the dogs do their thing but the lad I was out with wouldn't have him on the bank !

 How did he take it.

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[Gypsydog94 4,627]

On 04/06/2021 at 12:54, bird said:

i bet you , he soon tell you to feck off, if you asked to kill few rabbits with your lurcher, you get the crap he shoots him self answer , heard it loads of times .

See that Kaleb has a lurcher type. Bet he has some sport there 

[Gypsydog94 4,627]

1 hour ago, dillydog said:

I was down his way once having a red letter day with the terriers,  he wanted to come and watch the dogs do their thing but the lad I was out with wouldn't have him on the bank !

He's something rare these days, someone willing to tell it how it is and stick by what he believes,  right or wrong at least he's not another celebrity pushing the queen shit down your throat (pun intended)

You would think countrysport organisations would really try get him on board for promotion 

[dillydog 8,477]

1 hour ago, SINDASOX said:

 How did he take it.

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No idea, the lad I was with spoke to him on the phone as far as I remember,  it wasn't his place but another celebrity types farm. If I was honest I was gutted, I'm more than sure he'd be a good craic to have on the bank, and what a story for the future 

[mushroom 13,369]

Let's be honest here, land is a business. If I had 3 fields and I can make money off it, I'm going to. So if it's left to meadow because I'm being asked to do that, compensating the land owner is a given. 

[dytkos 17,861]

Love Clarkson, his books are hilarious

Cheers, D.

[Ken's Deputy 4,460]

2 hours ago, sid g said:

saw somewhere where he`s let 3 fields go to meadow and gets 70k per field subsidy

£210K a year? For turning land over to meadow? Paid by the govt. Out of Our pockets. Our Taxes.

I'm intimately familiar with Meadow. I smilingly gaze across it every day.

I've also looked into the eyes of abject and undisguised disgust and hatred. Set in well tanned skin.

I know, for Fukking sure, which I'd rather they spend My tax on supporting.

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51 minutes ago, dytkos said:

Love Clarkson, his books are hilarious

Did you catch his (Own) TV show; Twenty years back? Beyond fukking hilarious!

I'll never forget when he kicked one skit off with:

" So, there's a man. In a room. Alone. ........ It's going to happen ... "

[SheepChaser 8,089]

Good show.

However it does highlight one major issue in the world of British farming.

Farmers don’t buy farms anymore, rich city folk do, they buy them for tax purposes and because it’s quite nice that have. The government then pays them loads of money which means they can farm inefficiently and mess about and have a giggle but ultimately not worry too much how productive the farm is. 
 

We then import sh*t food from over seas. 

[NEWKID 27,700]

Watched the first 3 episodes, quite enjoyed it to be honest.... that dry stone waller had me in stitches...lol

[SheepChaser 8,089]

5 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

Watched the first 3 episodes, quite enjoyed it to be honest.... that dry stone waller had me in stitches...lol

That was an interesting bit, but I don’t know many farmers with walls on their farms who’d call in a Waller to put walls up when sheep knock them down. It’s expensive! Most folk would do it themselves. 

[NEWKID 27,700]

8 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

That was an interesting bit, but I don’t know many farmers with walls on their farms who’d call in a Waller to put walls up when sheep knock them down. It’s expensive! Most folk would do it themselves. 

Thing is mate he's got the money to pay for the upkeep by others, its not like he needs to farm to earn..

4 miles of stone walls, he said, that old waller is going around it constantly!! No wonder he talks gibberish...lol

[SheepChaser 8,089]

19 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

Thing is mate he's got the money to pay for the upkeep by others, its not like he needs to farm to earn..

4 miles of stone walls, he said, that old waller is going around it constantly!! No wonder he talks gibberish...lol

And there in lies another major issue with farming in the uk currently. You’re a builder right ? I can’t remember exactly. Why would happen if you were in competition with building firms that didn’t need to make any money out of building ? And which could pay double for materials and charge 50% of what you did for the same job because money from somewhere else was making up the difference ? How much work would you get and what price would your materials be etc? Folk don’t think of this stuff.

 

[NEWKID 27,700]

58 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

And there in lies another major issue with farming in the uk currently. You’re a builder right ? I can’t remember exactly. Why would happen if you were in competition with building firms that didn’t need to make any money out of building ? And which could pay double for materials and charge 50% of what you did for the same job because money from somewhere else was making up the difference ? How much work would you get and what price would your materials be etc? Folk don’t think of this stuff.

 

I dont completely agree mate to be honest, but could be well.off the mark..

He is sub contracting farming work out to run what is a large operation, so farming continues on the land.

He has the young lad on the tractor, the shepherd, the stone waller etc..

I'd say every large operation would subcontract the work out to a degree, I think you work on this basis yourself?

This is obviously quite staged for telly, but the ethos and how he is going about working the land etc is pretty good imo... better than putting planning on for a 1000 houses!! 

No different to how I run my business, yes we are a building firm but I use sub contractors a lot as there is no way I can do it all myself 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

11 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

I dont completely agree mate to be honest, but could be well.off the mark..

He is sub contracting farming work out to run what is a large operation, so farming continues on the land.

He has the young lad on the tractor, the shepherd, the stone waller etc..

I'd say every large operation would subcontract the work out to a degree, I think you work on this basis yourself?

This is obviously quite staged for telly, but the ethos and how he is going about working the land etc is pretty good imo... better than putting planning on for a 1000 houses!! 

No different to how I run my business, yes we are a building firm but I use sub contractors a lot as there is no way I can do it all myself 

I wasn’t talking about him getting the contractors in, just the bit where you correctly said - “it’s not as if he needs to make money out of the farming”. You are indeed correct - the aim of the game is to turnover your money and make no profit so you avoid the tax you’d pay normally. Same with avoiding inheritance tax. So effectively me and clarkson are both producing the same product ‘lamb’, only I am competing against someone who doesn’t need to make it pay, and who gets large amounts of government subsidy. So things like input costs are driven up as they are not related to production values, the prices driven down (as ultimately this isn’t important to many farmers). You get me ? I am competing in business with folk who don’t really need to make any money from farming, but still run it as a business. Land prices are now so madly inflated beyond production value, that no farmer can buy a farm anymore, and when rich folk buy one abs rent it to someone like me, I get zero security, it’s done on a 12 month lease so that they can claim to be the active farmer and get the gov subs. 
 

I am not knocking clarkson in any way shape or form, as he’s one of the better ones and this programme probably does a lot of good for farming. But the average person has so little idea of how the countryside and farming operates as a business, that it’s borderline scary. 
 

The latest thing is big business are buying farms abs booting folk out, to plant trees, to ‘offset’ their carbon emissions. Ironically grass land is actually better at sequestering carbon than trees, but folk don’t realise that!