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2 minutes ago, Francie said:

The vaccine is not training the immune system,the immune system already knows what to do with it

Nonsense. It trains the adaptive immune system to develop specially adapted antibodies. 

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I'll rely on my natural strength and vitality to protect me thank you ??

Well as I thought many differences in opinions, I believe the longer you leave it the better it’s got to be the Germans reckon they have found the blood clot cause in the J&J and the Astra Zeneca,

Your all doomed I say.... all doomed ?

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4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Nonsense. It trains the adaptive immune system to develop specially adapted antibodies. 

So the immune system is the student an the pathogen or vaccine is the trainer,bollox 

The immune system already has That capability to deal with dicease

 

 

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1 minute ago, Francie said:

So the immune system is the student an the pathogen or vaccine is the trainer,bollox 

The immune system already has That capability to deal with dicease

 

 

Yeah sure fella. Don’t bother jabbing your pups then.

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6 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Yeah sure fella. Don’t bother jabbing your pups then.

I never said that born,I'm saying pathogens an 'normal' vaccines don't train the immune system,the immune system fights of an invader,eats it up,with already built in mechanisms.

Unless your saying this new RNA vaccines are doing just that? 

Sure the conspiracy minds have been saying it ages?

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Just now, Francie said:

I never said that born,I'm saying pathogens an 'normal' vaccines don't train the immune system,the immune system fights of an invader,eats it up,with already built in mechanisms.

Unless your saying this new RNA vaccines are doing just that? 

Sure the conspiracy minds have been saying it ages?

The immune system “eats it up”.... Do you understand what happens when you bodies innate immune defences fail to “eat up” a pathogen? You get sick and your health deteriorates, your adaptive immune system then kicks in modifying antibodies and other immune cells to better attack the pathogen. In the same way that a fighter will adapt his tactics to a new opponent through experience and training, your bodies immune system adapts to a new pathogen through being trained.

Vaccines do this in a safe way. They ‘train’ the immune system to prepare it for a future encounters with a specific pathogen.

You can call bullshit all you want. That’s how immune systems work.

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12 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

The immune system “eats it up”.... Do you understand what happens when you bodies innate immune defences fail to “eat up” a pathogen? You get sick and your health deteriorates, your adaptive immune system then kicks in modifying antibodies and other immune cells to better attack the pathogen. In the same way that a fighter will adapt his tactics to a new opponent through experience and training, your bodies immune system adapts to a new pathogen through being trained.

Vaccines do this in a safe way. They ‘train’ the immune system to prepare it for a future encounters with a specific pathogen.

You can call bullshit all you want. That’s how immune systems work.

Well not go there tonight lol ?

In the words of big Arnie GET TO DA CHOPPA sorry I meant IL BE BACK?

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Well as I thought many differences in opinions, I believe the longer you leave it the better it’s got to be the Germans reckon they have found the blood clot cause in the J&J and the Astra Zeneca, so it will be modified again no doubt, as said before its an ongoing experiment, as Greyman said when did they ever chase you up for a Knee op neck op etc never.

It’s good business for the government to keep this going as long as possible testing vaccines PPE they have their fingers in all these lucrative pies, who was it who said never waste a crisis, Mr Winston Churchill PM WW2.

Thanks for your input chaps ?

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