shovel leaner 7,650 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 The great strength that the British army has always had is “ discipline “ . Think Crecy , Agincort , Waterloo , the countless skirmishes with the American independence army . It was our discipline that won us victory after victory against the “ cheese eating surrender monkeys “, and saw this once great nation of ours rule over a vast Empire. The officers have had to inspire their soldiers to follow them and keep rank instead of heading for the hills . They did this by the threat of brutal corporal punishment , but they also cleverly developed “esprit de corps “ pride in your regiment which they still do today . And an officer is like a totem of that regiment, someone to look up to and look to for inspiration when things get tough . As a consequence many officers have little affectations , maybe a dog or sword or silly hat that sets them apart . It’s a psychology that has been around for hundreds of years . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,350 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Wolfdog91 said: Idk man their SF looks pretty nice too me. The huntsmen corps especially. All I'm saying is if I was watching over a beach and a landing craft beachs and some big viking lookin mf came running out in body amor and a a double headed axe.....I'd probably start rethinking life choices . I need to find the article again. The video was in Norwegian or something so no clue what it was saying. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,443 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Wolfdog91 said: Idk man their SF looks pretty nice too me. The huntsmen corps especially. All I'm saying is if I was watching over a beach and a landing craft beachs and some big viking lookin mf came running out in body amor and a a double headed axe.....I'd probably start rethinking life choices . I need to find the article again. The video was in Norwegian or something so no clue what it was saying. Don’t have to rethink life choices mate.....that’s why they provide you with limitless amounts of 5.56 ammo.....just plug him ! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,186 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Whenever I think of eccentric British army officers I'm put in mind of that Scottish laird in the Longest Day. Carrying his stutzen stocked stalking rifle and taking his piper with him. Whenever the film is on TV I always intend to try and read up him but never get around to it. Don't know how accurate the film is but stirling stuff. Not sure how happy the piper would have been going into battle with his pipes rather than a weapon but to some people the sound of the pipes is as bad/good as a weapon. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulnix 426 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 18 hours ago, Ken's Deputy said: Thought; " Ah. Yeah. Guy in the middle's an officer then. They only carry a side arm. Then I thought; " Hang about! Why the fukk is That?! " Their job is to organise and order their men, if they had a Rifle then they would be distracted and be shooting it about and not paying attention to their job but with side arms they can defend themselves and in time of storming trenches it would also be a very handy weapon. As time has gone on they have dropped most of what makes them stick out, in the Boer war they blended in more uniform wise, early in WW1 they were ordered to pack their swords away, uniform has vastly changed and saluting in the field has also been done away with mostly because of the horrific losses the officers endured as the snipers could pick out who was important. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shovel leaner 7,650 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, eastcoast said: Whenever I think of eccentric British army officers I'm put in mind of that Scottish laird in the Longest Day. Carrying his stutzen stocked stalking rifle and taking his piper with him. Whenever the film is on TV I always intend to try and read up him but never get around to it. Don't know how accurate the film is but stirling stuff. Not sure how happy the piper would have been going into battle with his pipes rather than a weapon but to some people the sound of the pipes is as bad/good as a weapon. The Scott’s guards fixed bayonets and charged Mt Tumbledown in the Faulklands conflict in 1982 , they had the pipes playing as they took on the Argentine marines that were dug in . It must have put the fear of god in them . I’ve heard first hand accounts of the battle. It was brutal and bloody and hard to believe it’s nearly 40 years ago . The pipes serve a duel purpose, they stir national pride in the Scottish troops and scare the enemy. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, eastcoast said: Whenever I think of eccentric British army officers I'm put in mind of that Scottish laird in the Longest Day. Carrying his stutzen stocked stalking rifle and taking his piper with him. Whenever the film is on TV I always intend to try and read up him but never get around to it. Don't know how accurate the film is but stirling stuff. Not sure how happy the piper would have been going into battle with his pipes rather than a weapon but to some people the sound of the pipes is as bad/good as a weapon. Sounds like Lord Lovat.... Edited May 19, 2021 by Born Hunter Just checked, it was indeed Lovat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, shovel leaner said: The Scott’s guards fixed bayonets and charged Mt Tumbledown in the Faulklands conflict in 1982 , they had the pipes playing as they took on the Argentine marines that were dug in . It must have put the fear of god in them . I’ve heard first hand accounts of the battle. It was brutal and bloody and hard to believe it’s nearly 40 years ago . The pipes serve a duel purpose, they stir national pride in the Scottish troops and scare the enemy. I know a lad who was raised on such stories and inspired him to join Zulu Company RMs. Myself, reading first hand accounts in the history books of them doning their green berets so the enemy knew exactly who they were facing and screaming "zulu zulu zulu" as the charged. Legendary stuff. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, eastcoast said: Whenever I think of eccentric British army officers I'm put in mind of that Scottish laird in the Longest Day. Carrying his stutzen stocked stalking rifle and taking his piper with him. Whenever the film is on TV I always intend to try and read up him but never get around to it. Don't know how accurate the film is but stirling stuff. Not sure how happy the piper would have been going into battle with his pipes rather than a weapon but to some people the sound of the pipes is as bad/good as a weapon. Also, I'm not sure but I seem to recall that the commandos weren't allowed in the vanguard of the Normandy invasion due to some sort of traditional resistance to this new type of soldier, so I don't think the piper would have been mooching about scenes from Saving Private Ryan. Might be wrong.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,186 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Sounds like Lord Lovat.... That's the chap. I've just done quick Google on him. I forget there is no need to search for books these days. Apparently pipers leading charges was outlawed after WW1. When reminded of this Lovat said that's an English rule and we are Scottish! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shovel leaner 7,650 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: I know a lad who was raised on such stories and inspired him to join Zulu Company RMs. Myself, reading first hand accounts in the history books of them doning their green berets so the enemy knew exactly who they were facing and screaming "zulu zulu zulu" as the charged. Legendary stuff. Another regiment that was very busy during the Falklands were the Gurkhas . Those guys spread terror through the Argentine ranks . I don’t think it’s right to talk on an open forum about the tactics they employed but it involved their Kukri’s . A very impressive outfit . 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,460 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, shovel leaner said: I don’t think it’s right to talk on an open forum about the tactics they employed but it involved their Kukri’s . Absolutely Fukking Classic!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MH1 1,885 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: I spent a bit time with ghurkas, I was left surprised a lot by them, very classy outfit if I do say so meself They can knock up a class curry too....even if they make you eat it with your hands 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 6,966 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 8 hours ago, W. Katchum said: We are all the same Yeah that's why we sit back and allow totally unvetted immigration, and the rape and abuse of white girls ,I'm sure if he was on the beaches greeting the invading filth with that sword ,they'd think twice !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: I meant the forces, of course yours civvies are all pussies Thank god for my honourary star fleet commission! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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