Trainability

[mC HULL 12,133]

4 minutes ago, poxon said:

Here’s one to play on the other foot if a dog is useless because its only used to catch rabbits (I’m speaking in general)were does that leave specialist dogs used for just one roll deer,fox,pigs,hare,rats if the owner has no interest in nothing else bar the quarry he/she has the dog for?out of all these quarry what is the most valued I think in my eyes any quarry caught by your dog/s has the same face value as a catch is a catch none rates higher than another were purpose bred is concerned 1 is 1 so the way I look at it is a man can go do 40 fox or what ever a season with his purpose bred killing dog but a man can go lamp and catch 150 rabbits with his purpose bred rabbit dog who dogs worked the hardest? I’d say the rabbit dog because that’s it’s purpose an there’s a higher body count but you can’t through the shoe on the other foot because it don’t fit when it comes to purpose bred dogs you can only compare like for like dogs for there specialist game.

Pre ban I have  a hunting dog mate for hunting I expect it to hunt catch whatever it’s slipped on I always get the most joy from daytime big rab the dog really has worked its socks off come winter 

a rab or fox or deer doesn’t hold the same value mate 

Even when we was kids even rab fox deer normal mate you went home hare you carried it back beaming all the way home This just me mate  

[king 11,971]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Pre ban I have  a hunting dog mate for hunting I expect it to hunt catch whatever it’s slipped on I always get the most joy from daytime big rab the dog really has worked its socks off come winter 

a rab or fox or deer doesn’t hold the same value mate 

Even when we was kids even rab fox deer normal mate you went home hare you carried it back beaming all the way home This just me mate  

So you don't need to double up on a leveret then..by the sounds of it..

[Gypsydog94 4,557]

So which is the most trainable? 

[mC HULL 12,133]

2 minutes ago, king said:

So you don't need to double up on a leveret then..by the sounds of it..

Why would I run a leveret unless dogs out on walk summer by accident  

mine packed away months ago mate not just getting started  

[poxon 5,718]

Just now, South hams hunter said:

Thing is with that type of scenario is the fox dog will probably be able to put a few rabbits in the bag or a few deer and maybe the odd hare but the rabbit dog probably won't be able to put the foxes away

Probably but your talking of a all rounder used for a bit of everything rather than just sticking to one quarry an grading just on that alone I get what you saying 

[mC HULL 12,133]

1 minute ago, Gypsydog94 said:

So which is the most trainable? 

Herding types  

[South hams hunter 8,921]

15 minutes ago, poxon said:

Here’s one to play on the other foot if a dog is useless because its only used to catch rabbits (I’m speaking in general)were does that leave specialist dogs used for just one roll deer,fox,pigs,hare,rats if the owner has no interest in nothing else bar the quarry he/she has the dog for?out of all these quarry what is the most valued I think in my eyes any quarry caught by your dog/s has the same face value as a catch is a catch none rates higher than another were purpose bred is concerned 1 is 1 so the way I look at it is a man can go do 40 fox or what ever a season with his purpose bred killing dog but a man can go lamp and catch 150 rabbits with his purpose bred rabbit dog who dogs worked the hardest? I’d say the rabbit dog because that’s it’s purpose an there’s a higher body count but you can’t through the shoe on the other foot because it don’t fit when it comes to purpose bred dogs you can only compare like for like dogs for there specialist game.

Also having re read your post I don't think you can really compare many dogs unless it's something like daytime competitions; nothing else has rules to it. Your dog that's used how you ferret may look crap because I ferret a different way on different ground. Same as you might run fox/deer with a red filter only removing it the last second and my dogs never seen a filtered light. You might drive the ground with your dog running beside for rabbiting.... There's too many variables to compare dogs imo

[Aussie Whip 4,083]

Just now, mC HULL said:

Herding types  

mC HULL, the saluki crosses have no votes you traitor, lol.

[South hams hunter 8,921]

3 minutes ago, poxon said:

Probably but your talking of a all rounder used for a bit of everything rather than just sticking to one quarry an grading just on that alone I get what you saying 

No I'm not, you said they all rate the same and 150 rabbits is more impressive than 40 foxes but chances are that 40 fox dog will do 100/120 of those rabbits but that rabbit dog may not do 10 of those foxes. They're not all equal imo

[poxon 5,718]

1 minute ago, South hams hunter said:

Also having re read your post I don't think you can really compare many dogs unless it's something like daytime competitions; nothing else has rules to it. Your dog that's used how you ferret may look crap because I ferret a different way on different ground. Same as you might run fox/deer with a red filter only removing it the last second and my dogs never seen a filtered light. You might drive the ground with your dog running beside for rabbiting.... There's too many variables to compare dogs imo

mate we on the same page No dog is better than another with all the variables in there it’s only on the man with the dog on slip can say if it’s good or not an that’s based on what that man needs for his land an what suits him or her to another man the same dog can be that mans turd 

[mC HULL 12,133]

1 minute ago, Aussie Whip said:

mC HULL, the saluki crosses have no votes you traitor, lol.

I’d have to be pissed up smoking weed for a year solid to vote for saluki crosses in this mate and I don’t drink so that’s f****d  

no mate saluki cross some like lurchers but they spot things far and once hunt mode on your not stopping it even if speck in distance  

[mC HULL 12,133]

7 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

Also having re read your post I don't think you can really compare many dogs unless it's something like daytime competitions; nothing else has rules to it. Your dog that's used how you ferret may look crap because I ferret a different way on different ground. Same as you might run fox/deer with a red filter only removing it the last second and my dogs never seen a filtered light. You might drive the ground with your dog running beside for rabbiting.... There's too many variables to compare dogs imo

I thought all was same end result game caught 

 

unless your Sandy with them galagos then coursing competition style sorry Sandy  

[king 11,971]

11 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Why would I run a leveret unless dogs out on walk summer by accident  

mine packed away months ago mate not just getting started  

They are fast as feck mate..and take a seriously fast dog to catch

[mC HULL 12,133]

1 minute ago, king said:

They are fast as feck mate..and take a seriously fast dog to catch

You know by the sounds of it mate  

Your bag consist of leverets rabbits in young and Cubs and neighbours cat way home you are a summer hunter mate  

[Aussie Whip 4,083]

13 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

Also having re read your post I don't think you can really compare many dogs unless it's something like daytime competitions; nothing else has rules to it. Your dog that's used how you ferret may look crap because I ferret a different way on different ground. Same as you might run fox/deer with a red filter only removing it the last second and my dogs never seen a filtered light. You might drive the ground with your dog running beside for rabbiting.... There's too many variables to compare dogs imo

Very true, dogmen have probably been arguing over who's dog is better since we tamed wolves, sort of like an ancient tradition, lol.