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3 minutes ago, Francie said:

Not nessacarily mate,were not all greedy consumers,some folk don't want nothing to do with all flashy shite,there's many living a lifestyle without it all 

That's easy to say Francie sat in your luxurious caravan with a nice polar bear rug. 

Try telling that to those in 3rd world countries in their race to be at the forefront. 

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11 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Come off it Francie bury your head in the sand if you like more people means more consumption just for the basics for survival .

Add to that nowdays all the want and greed.

The Worlds resources are Not infinite they will not last forever especially with 8 billion people with a lot of them being totally selfish and greedy me me me types .

The Human race is Fooked mate we acting like parasites we will orchestrate our own demise ‘ nailed on and infighting will only hasten it imo ?

The world's resources are they to be used in a sensible manner,iv no problem with that. 

We can consume in an orderly fashion max 

We can't stop the world's population just cause people say we're overcrowded. 

Iv a small footprint compared to the folk talking about overpopulation,save the world crap,so when they start doing what there telling us to do,then I might start listening,but until then max I won't be listening to these hypocrites

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1 minute ago, Francie said:

The world's resources are they to be used in a sensible manner,iv no problem with that. 

We can consume in an orderly fashion max 

We can't stop the world's population just cause people say we're overcrowded. 

Iv a small footprint compared to the folk talking about overpopulation,save the world crap,so when they start doing what there telling us to do,then I might start listening,but until then max I won't be listening to these hypocrites

Bang on fella, the masses dont really have a choice, the so called elites have made/kept it like this for massive financial gain, they fear human progress.

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1 minute ago, Francie said:

Take for instance bill.gates,he admitted to having one of the biggest carbon footprints in the world yet he's telling us to lower our consumption. ????

That my friend is crazy talk,bill can go f**k himself

Same with the so called royal family, charles talking shit all the time, makes ya sick.

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1 minute ago, SONOFSOIL said:

Bang on fella, the masses dont really have a choice, the so called elites have made/kept it like this for massive financial gain, they fear human progress.

Yep,massive hypocrisy,as I said when these self proclaimed assholes,who have the biggest carbon footprint start practising what they preach,then I might listen

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Just now, SONOFSOIL said:

Same with the so called royal family, charles talking shit all the time, makes ya sick.

The man talks to trees ffs lol one of the biggest polluters but talks to trees an hasn't f****d up about the global reset,utter contempt for us

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2 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I ain’t read whole thread just cos it’s about packham, but if he try at bothered he could take the weight off his feet an we be 1 less?

Excatly katch,they want us to do it,instead of them,f**k them,the world's not overpopulated,polluted yes due to neglegence which can be countered in the future.

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2 minutes ago, Francie said:

Excatly katch,they want us to do it,instead of them,f**k them,the world's not overpopulated,polluted yes due to neglegence which can be countered in the future.

Some truth in that mate? theres huge profits in everything that is wrong, the masses get the blame for it.

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15 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Full of resources that the  others  wants for themselfs 

That's what I mean max,the c**ts that are taking the resources,are the same crowd telling us to take the fall. 

All we can do is crack on an try an do our best as individuals to keep the earth spinning,we should not hold it against the next generation who wants to have a family life,just like we did.

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2 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Nothing wrong with having a family life mate but the population needs to stay as it is at least and not rise further or we going to be in some serious trouble or our ancestors going forward are at least not to mention what a shit world it’s going to be with fecked oceans and no forests or land with nothing on or in it ?

I see your point max I do,but depopulation ain't the answer imo. 

The world's not going to last much longer anyway,we reap what we sow, were going to have to answer to the almighty soon enough.

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7 minutes ago, Francie said:

I see your point max I do,but depopulation ain't the answer imo. 

The world's not going to last much longer anyway,we reap what we sow, were going to have to answer to the almighty soon enough.

No chance of depopulation now mate, its gone to far...

There is quite obviously a correlation between more humans and the demise of our planet...

From habitation loss, deforestation, pollution, reduction in natural reserves, over fishing, over farming (poor farming practices) etc etc... humans are destructive...more humans = more destruction... its not hard to work that bit out...

I'm not sure if you are anti contraception due to your faith and that is none of my business, but a stabilising of the earths population can only be deemed a good thing surely??

I find the arguments about Bill Gates or Prince Charles quite funny too... we are all in some way responsible, pick up some litter, recycle, walk more drive less...etc etc.... and I'm pretty sure from reading your posts you are conservation minded...so why you point at those you feel don't do enough as a reason not to do anything is a bit strange??

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