forest of dean redneck 11,664 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, JAE B said: Be to sluggish a reckon Plenty of pure collies can ferret ,lamp bush, rat etc Abroad they been used on squirrel ,coon and feral pig bit of extra speed would just be a bonus . 1 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,369 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 no point what so ever in a reverse cross.....i cant see a task one would perform better than a half cross.....and i wouldnt want one of them either....lol 1 1 2 Quote Link to post
JAE B 550 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, forest of dean redneck said: Plenty of pure collies can ferret ,lamp bush, rat etc Abroad they been used on squirrel ,coon and feral pig bit of extra speed would just be a bonus . Am not saying they can’t just wouldn’t be quick enough for what a need Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,037 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, JAE B said: Am not saying they can’t just wouldn’t be quick enough for what a need Sheep work like Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, C.green said: Curs ? Yer collie curs are a little bit cooler than collie xs. Just a bit more rugged and genuine. Quote Link to post
C.green 3,231 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Wideboy said: Why do people refer to collies as curs? This word is from hunt kennels and hunting with hounds. Any dog breed that was not a hound breed was known as a cur. This is what I’ve been told since I’ve been a nipper from good hunting men and spending an awful lot of time around hunt kennels. I think the word is misunderstood. Aye dead on dont see how a collie can be a cur but there ya go Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,664 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Chid was referring to the collie lurcher which is a mongrel technically which people called curs years ago I know what he means Quote Link to post
C.green 3,231 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: Yer collie curs are a little bit cooler than collie xs. Just a bit more rugged and genuine. Makes sense now. Can you bring a collie next time we go bushing just so i can get that authentic “cur dog” feeling ? Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 minute ago, C.green said: Makes sense now. Can you bring a collie next time we go bushing just so i can get that authentic “cur dog” feeling ? Ready to rock and roll 2 Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,037 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: Ready to rock and roll Not a proper cur iny got 1 freaky eye 1 Quote Link to post
Neal 1,873 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Curs were pastoral types. Cur is simply an abbreviation of curtailed i.e. tail was shortened so that (in the opinion of the gentry) they could herd livestock but not catch anything which "belonged" to the aforementioned gentry. It was a type of dog described as a cur which was taken to Australia and mated to dingoes to produce the original Hall's heelers and Timmins Biters: NOT collies as is usually stated. That's why the original dogs could be either full or short tailed. The reason people think Australian cattle dogs all have tails is because the bloke who wrote the first breed description didn't include the stumpies in his description. Ooh, I do love a good bit of philology. 4 Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,037 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Neal said: Curs were pastoral types. Cur is simply an abbreviation of curtailed i.e. tail was shortened so that (in the opinion of the gentry) they could herd livestock but not catch anything which "belonged" to the aforementioned gentry. It was a type of dog described as a cur which was taken to Australia and mated to dingoes to produce the original Hall's heelers and Timmins Biters: NOT collies as is usually stated. That's why the original dogs could be either full or short tailed. The reason people think Australian cattle dogs all have tails is because the bloke who wrote the first breed description didn't include the stumpies in his description. Ooh, I do love a good bit of philology. Sounds a bit far fetched that does 1 Quote Link to post
pengelli 373 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 9 hours ago, nothernlite said: Well there's no point talking to someone that does f..k all lives in the past like his pal whin theres a good fb page thees a few lads on there with good working reverse bred type be better joining that thete a cracking litter of pups bred that way how do you know what he does and doesnt do 2 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, pengelli said: how do you know what he does and doesnt do I know 4 Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 A half cross would be far better but replace the collie half with bedlington instead Quote Link to post
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