gasaxeman 167 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 i do honestly believe the market is unsustainable due to factors like the end of the furlough scheme and a return to some kind of normality. The jobless total is certainly going to get worse than better so these ludicrous stupid prices will fall away .and we certainly know that owning a dog dogs in lockdown is a totally different kettle of fish than committing too a dog /dogs fulltime. i would if a betting man expect a slowing down by sept/oct and the dogs homes starting to get an influx of these snood pyjama wearing furbabys later . As for price i dont think 700/800 is too much for a ped non ped with proven track records working wise for a pup and lurcher around 1/3rd cheaper again with a proven track record . But the money being asked today is extracting the urine for any lurcher type . My favourite and have been for 40 years are 18 too about 23 bush lamp ferret type dogs . But looking on the adverts and testing the waters these seem rare as hens teeth . I spent all my life working to pay my mortgage not to start another up for a pair of dogs /bitches etc .there is a couple of possibilities in the future depending on if or when they decide to breed so a waiting game at the moment. 1 Quote Link to post
fred90 3,228 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 just before covid I would say going rate for a ped was £800. beddywhippet had just started fetching about £400.who knows were it will all end? Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Nice wee dog. Reminds me of the whippet I had about ten years or so ago. Punched seriously above his weight and flew into everything from foxes to fallow bucks with great gusto. Hunted hard and had zero fear but the nicest personality you could wish for. If I thought u could get another like him I think I would but from what I can see these days they seem to cost ten times as much for half the dog. Too many folk breeding for the wrong reasons, lap dogs and shivery pets. I remember lamping with my lad one night, he was on the arse of a hare, snapping his jaws, the hare dropped into a ditch and rang along it, dog followed, just as he was about to strike the hare went up the vertical end where there was a drainage pipe under a track. The dog hit it full on, mouth open, I thought he was most likely dead and ran over, he came out that ditch like a little black rocket, over the side, back after the hare and I last saw him plowing through a hedge after it...... a few second later I heard the squeal from next field. When he came trotting back and gave it to me, the hare was covered in claret. Open closer inspection I realised it wasn’t from the hare, the dog had snapped all his front teeth out and one canine, they were hanging from his mouth by bits of gum. He just stood there mouthing the hare with his wrecked gob and wagging his tail. Hooligan. RIP Finn. That a whippet to me, not some daft wee lap dog. And your lad looks cut from same mould. 10 2 Quote Link to post
Snapdogs 102 Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, SheepChaser said: Nice wee dog. Reminds me of the whippet I had about ten years or so ago. Punched seriously above his weight and flew into everything from foxes to fallow bucks with great gusto. Hunted hard and had zero fear but the nicest personality you could wish for. If I thought u could get another like him I think I would but from what I can see these days they seem to cost ten times as much for half the dog. Too many folk breeding for the wrong reasons, lap dogs and shivery pets. I remember lamping with my lad one night, he was on the arse of a hare, snapping his jaws, the hare dropped into a ditch and rang along it, dog followed, just as he was about to strike the hare went up the vertical end where there was a drainage pipe under a track. The dog hit it full on, mouth open, I thought he was most likely dead and ran over, he came out that ditch like a little black rocket, over the side, back after the hare and I last saw him plowing through a hedge after it...... a few second later I heard the squeal from next field. When he came trotting back and gave it to me, the hare was covered in claret. Open closer inspection I realised it wasn’t from the hare, the dog had snapped all his front teeth out and one canine, they were hanging from his mouth by bits of gum. He just stood there mouthing the hare with his wrecked gob and wagging his tail. Hooligan. RIP Finn. That a whippet to me, not some daft wee lap dog. And your lad looks cut from same mould. That’s the kind of dog I like to run! It makes you cringe at times and you often expect that slip to be the dogs last... but they run like they mean it and they would die for their quarry. Iv seen mine run off cliff edges on the lamp, he’s ran straight through barbed wire after a rabbit that’s gone through, made the catch and then Iv seen he’s missed ripping his eye out by the skin of his teeth... I don’t like watching dogs that mess about teasing quarry I want them to hit it at 100mph. Quote Link to post
fred90 3,228 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, SheepChaser said: to say that dog was driven is a bit of a understatement. just how I like a little rabbiting dog. did you not think of getting one from the same lines or do you just think it's pot luck how he turned out? Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, fred90 said: to say that dog was driven is a bit of a understatement. just how I like a little rabbiting dog. did you not think of getting one from the same lines or do you just think it's pot luck how he turned out? I had the pick of a litter bred by Mike, and it’s the only one I’ve ever owned ...... he stopped breeding them and I’m not so sure who else out there breeds that kind of genuine quality animal ...... without forgetting the £3000 price tag. Working whippets aren’t going to come out of this well at all, I still see lots of Lurchers being bred for right reasons and sold for sensible sums or gifted. I see pretty much no whippets going into working homes for sensible money. They will end up hand bag dogs. Shame really as I think they blow stuff like Beddy whips out of the water. 3 Quote Link to post
fred90 3,228 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: I had the pick of a litter bred by Mike, and it’s the only one I’ve ever owned ...... he stopped breeding them and I’m not so sure who else out there breeds that kind of genuine quality animal ...... without forgetting the £3000 price tag. Working whippets aren’t going to come out of this well at all, I still see lots of Lurchers being bred for right reasons and sold for sensible sums or gifted. I see pretty much no whippets going into working homes for sensible money. They will end up hand bag dogs. Shame really as I think they blow stuff like Beddy whips out of the water. heard a lot of good things about his whippets, also a few swear by other lines as well. I have always fancied one someday. Quote Link to post
Snapdogs 102 Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, SheepChaser said: I had the pick of a litter bred by Mike, and it’s the only one I’ve ever owned ...... he stopped breeding them and I’m not so sure who else out there breeds that kind of genuine quality animal ...... without forgetting the £3000 price tag. Working whippets aren’t going to come out of this well at all, I still see lots of Lurchers being bred for right reasons and sold for sensible sums or gifted. I see pretty much no whippets going into working homes for sensible money. They will end up hand bag dogs. Shame really as I think they blow stuff like Beddy whips out of the water. It’s all about who you know... I’m confident if I wanted another I could get one at a sensible price. 3 Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, fred90 said: heard a lot of good things about his whippets, also a few swear by other lines as well. I have always fancied one someday. The ones I saw from Mike work were all like peas in a pod. Thick set, hard as nails with huge drive. He was a proper knowledgeable dog man to. 1 Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Snapdogs said: It’s all about who you know... I’m confident if I wanted another I could get one at a sensible price. This is very true I’m sure. I don’t really move in whippet type circles, no one I know keeps that kind of dog. And I am inherently distrustful of anyone’s claims other than those I know it have gone out with. So it would be somewhat of a mission. But I stand by what I say, of all of the running dogs, the whippet has been seized on by the peddlers as a good way to line their pockets. I see ‘working whippets’ being advertised for £2500. Must be having a giraffe One day I’ll have another to add to the bushing team. But until then the big dogs will do me. I’ve hopefully got another Lurcher pup coming soon. 1 Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 There are folk still breeding decent whippets for the right reasons and not charging the daft prices, but a google on pets 4 homes etc won’t find you one tbf the same as it won’t for any dog type. Most decent bred whippets are lunatics runners ime heart in your mouth stuff. I would agree plenty of dross being bred though but again same for any breed. But if homework and waiting time will find most a decent rabbit dog imo 2 Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 8,089 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, matt1979 said: There are folk still breeding decent whippets for the right reasons and not charging the daft prices, but a google on pets 4 homes etc won’t find you one tbf the same as it won’t for any dog type. Most decent bred whippets are lunatics runners ime heart in your mouth stuff. I would agree plenty of dross being bred though but again same for any breed. But if homework and waiting time will find most a decent rabbit dog imo One thing I do think about any of these specialist rabbiters....... unless you are hitting certain bits of the country, rabbits are rapidly declining. When I owned that whippet I put a lot of miles in for the big bags of rabbits, but they were still about enough for 10-20 a night being a regular thing local around the doors. Now ...... I don’t know if there is the work to really push a specialist rabbit dog? If I got another whippet I’d be getting it for other things, but it would be punching a bit. Quote Link to post
Busher100 740 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 hours ago, SheepChaser said: Nice wee dog. Reminds me of the whippet I had about ten years or so ago. Punched seriously above his weight and flew into everything from foxes to fallow bucks with great gusto. Hunted hard and had zero fear but the nicest personality you could wish for. If I thought u could get another like him I think I would but from what I can see these days they seem to cost ten times as much for half the dog. Too many folk breeding for the wrong reasons, lap dogs and shivery pets. I remember lamping with my lad one night, he was on the arse of a hare, snapping his jaws, the hare dropped into a ditch and rang along it, dog followed, just as he was about to strike the hare went up the vertical end where there was a drainage pipe under a track. The dog hit it full on, mouth open, I thought he was most likely dead and ran over, he came out that ditch like a little black rocket, over the side, back after the hare and I last saw him plowing through a hedge after it...... a few second later I heard the squeal from next field. When he came trotting back and gave it to me, the hare was covered in claret. Open closer inspection I realised it wasn’t from the hare, the dog had snapped all his front teeth out and one canine, they were hanging from his mouth by bits of gum. He just stood there mouthing the hare with his wrecked gob and wagging his tail. Hooligan. RIP Finn. That a whippet to me, not some daft wee lap dog. And your lad looks cut from same mould. See plenty pics of him you put on here years ago he was a proper sort 1 Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Snapdogs said: It’s all about who you know... I’m confident if I wanted another I could get one at a sensible price. Exactly snapdog I’ve been searching around for a good whippet stud after the one I was gona use sadly had his life cut short , but trough who you know lines the right one has come up and no silly over priced stud fee either they takeing a pup in return that’s the way it always used to be , 1 Quote Link to post
poxon 5,732 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 One day I like to think I’ll take a trip back to my first memory’s of running dogs with a whippet when I’m done with Lurchers Does any one know if nimrodel or oakbark still produce a decent whippet that will work or they gone to shit? Quote Link to post
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