A Way out of Walsall - D. Brian Plummer (1985)

[Greb147 6,809]

10 minutes ago, low plains drifter said:

Some people claim to be on it like a car bonnet, I say you're on it like a 1970's wire coat hanger being used as a car aerial on a car bonnet

No, more like a discarded forest fresh magic trees air freshener that's lodged itself on to a 1970's wire coat hanger that's used as a car aerial kinda on it. 

[Greyman 28,039]

Plummer was a puppy farmer that did good self advertising, I went to that chicken farm years ago, it was rows of ex racing greyhounds and a handful of farmyard type collies just churning out pups, my mate wanted a pup so 3 of us in a £50 Mk1 escort van took a 240 mile round trip, the dog was related to one of the dogs in his book allegedly and cost a premium, it was rubbish next to my £2.50 dogs home special

[low plains drifter 10,273]

27 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

No, more like a discarded forest fresh magic trees air freshener that's lodged itself on to a 1970's wire coat hanger that's used as a car aerial kinda on it. 

What about a ford Sierra that's been stolen from a supermarket car park with a brace of furry dice and a Kevin and Julie strip akimbo on the front windscreen found on its roof amidst pre new build suburbia 

[Nicepix 5,650]

1 hour ago, Greyman said:

Plummer was a puppy farmer that did good self advertising, I went to that chicken farm years ago, it was rows of ex racing greyhounds and a handful of farmyard type collies just churning out pups, my mate wanted a pup so 3 of us in a £50 Mk1 escort van took a 240 mile round trip, the dog was related to one of the dogs in his book allegedly and cost a premium, it was rubbish next to my £2.50 dogs home special

He was a school teacher in a world of people who looked up to teachers, doctors and the like thinking  that they were above their level and never questioned them. That's how he got away with talking bollox for so long. Most of the people that he mixed with wouldn't know a ferret from a rat.

I met him a couple of times when he lived locally and he knew nothing about dog behaviour and dog training. Terriers kill things naturally. Long dogs chase things naturally. That is as far as he got.

When he tried to breed white GSDs because he thought that colouration had more intelligent genes he came a cropper. If it was that simple the Met' with its huge breeding program would have been all over it. As it is, virtually no police forces use white GSDs.

He was good at self publicity. No doubt about that.

[poachers apprentice 134]

11 hours ago, TOMO said:

thanks for the heads up....

thank god i live in the east midlands...

God's country, new I couldn't be the only east midlander on here 

[Greb147 6,809]

Best part about the east midlands is the runway out..... 

[South hams hunter 8,921]

as much as people dislike him and say this and that. hes the only hunting guy i know that ever created his own breed of dog and could certainly write a good book. 

[South hams hunter 8,921]

he was also responsible for creating a fire in a lot of young lads fresh to hunting

[Ken's Deputy 4,459]

9 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

 could certainly write a good book. 

Can't take that away from him.

I mean, by all means try. Then start churning out your own stuff and see if it gets you anywhere near his sales.

[South hams hunter 8,921]

13 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said:

Can't take that away from him.

I mean, by all means try. Then start churning out your own stuff and see if it gets you anywhere near his sales.

that's it ken. 

even if you don't agree with his 'factual' content there's still a lot to be said about his fiction as well

[dytkos 17,783]

57 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said:

Can't take that away from him.

I mean, by all means try. Then start churning out your own stuff and see if it gets you anywhere near his sales.

He has.

Cheers, D.

[DIDO.1 22,550]

6 minutes ago, baker boy said:

We were all a lot more naive back in those days mate

That wasn't a bad thing. We saw what was in front of our noses. Not trying to prove we knew more in cyber land 

[Greb147 6,809]

13 minutes ago, baker boy said:

We were all a lot more naive back in those days mate

Are you positive that he tells lies, just tell me straight. 

I'm about to order a fox chow mein from the chinky. 

[Elchapo 3,166]

Best thing about Walsall ......motor way out of there 

 

place needs bombing  

[Ken's Deputy 4,459]

22 minutes ago, baker boy said:

We were all a lot more naive back in those days mate

I was there.

However, I wasn't around in the Dickensian 1800's, so I can't vouch for the veracity; I only know that " Nathan " is one of the best novels I've ever read. I still hold by that. Naive or not.

" Tales Of A Rat Hunting Man " What have You ever come out with, to get anywhere near as hilarious as the vision of a nun saying, in a Bridget Bardot voice; " I like my man to smell of long dead cod. "

No. 'Sorry'. The man was a kunt, as a person. Damn few would dispute that. A pathological liar? Indisputably. What 'his' terriers are like? I neither know nor care. As with so much else about the guy; Nothing to do with me.

But I, along with practically anyone else on here over the age of forty, Loved reading his books. And there can be no going back and changing that truth now.

There was no internet then. Remember? We'd walk round to a mates place and knock his door. Sit in his living room, looking him in the eye, chatting.

We were proud of our libraries of hardback books. By Niall, Jeffries, Carnegie, Bateman, Herber - Percy, and, yes, Plummer.

Now? It's the done thing to vilify the guy harder than the last man. Displaying hatred of Plummer has become an internet trope.

'He was a kunt!'. Glad you're not one then. 'He was an inveterate liar!'. Am I to take Your word for that? 'His books were bollocks!'. Then please direct me to your own publications, that I might compare.