The plummer terrier

[tatsblisters 9,617]

9 hours ago, sid g said:

and who knows what went into the russells he said he had em from one place they said he did`nt he had them from somewhere else he said he did`nt  wonder if there is any documentation as to what went into them and from where ..

I would be surprised if they originated from them rough haired mongrely types he first brought to Rotherham all them years ago .

[Loton Moocher 1,254]

1 minute ago, sid g said:

he said he had them from eddie chapman bert gripton bill brockley arthur nixon story changed that many times i think he had some from muriel  jones was even mentioned that corgi had gone in the mix who knows ... 

I very much doubt he had anything off Bert , as Bert once said after one meeting with him he was a fake , I’m sure others on here will know that .

[Loton Moocher 1,254]

Just now, sid g said:

i know that ! ,,,, burt chucked a load of his books in the bin at one of the big game fairs ,,, he never had any off eddie bill brockley or arthur nixon either 

Haha I remember you telling me that now , old Bert was a rare one

[tatsblisters 9,617]

44 minutes ago, sid g said:

he said he had them from eddie chapman bert gripton bill brockley arthur nixon story changed that many times i think he had some from muriel  jones was even mentioned that corgi had gone in the mix who knows ... 

Just been looking at a picture in a first edition of the first book he ever wrote with a few lads with some russel types that he claims were out of his old dog San that he mentioned in one of his books though i dont think their is any pictures of this dog any were .

 

[downsouth 7,248]

And then theres the story of the top fighting dog The something White that he claimed went into his terriers.A top fighting dog that no bulldog man Ive ever spoken to has ever heard of and the dog who you wont find written about anywhere else or in any pedigrees apart from the fantasies that he wrote.

[Greb147 6,809]

46 minutes ago, downsouth said:

And then theres the story of the top fighting dog The something White that he claimed went into his terriers.A top fighting dog that no bulldog man Ive ever spoken to has ever heard of and the dog who you wont find written about anywhere else or in any pedigrees apart from the fantasies that he wrote.

It was the English Bullshit Terrier. 

[gnasher16 30,095]

Had to make the decision to let go of my little lad recently,shame as i really liked the dog but he just hated my mrs coming anywhere near me i think he thought i needed protecting from her .....he showed teeth and had half hearted snaps at her quite a few times but properly kicked off at her a few months back so with a grandson i was hoping to introduce to the countryside alongside him it was a no brainer... he was an ok mooching type companion but too highly strung for normal everyday life he,s now living up near Cambridge with a caravan dweller lad i know....seems to be doing ok so alls well that ends well.

Edited February 18, 2021 by gnasher16

[Barrie 1,325]

4 hours ago, sid g said:

i know that ! ,,,, burt chucked a load of his books in the bin at one of the big game fairs ,,, he never had any off eddie bill brockley or arthur nixon either 

It was at the CLA Game Fair at Glanusk Park in 1976 when the Fell & Moorland had their first ever stand at a major Game Fair. We were all working on the stand when Plummer swanned up uninvited and dumped a load of his books on the stand for "someone to sell", then disappeared like a shot (he was never too comfortable in the company of "real terriermen" and preferred more impressionable school kids).

Next thing Old Bert had scooped the lot up and dumped them in the nearest rubbish skip.... with a few choice words.

For years afterwards he was threatening to sue the Club for the value of the books.... but much like a lot of the stuff he wrote, that didn't happen either.

My apologies if I've shattered anyone's illusions of the man, but it's not possible to rewrite history and that was the general impression of the man at the time.

Edited February 18, 2021 by Barrie

[shaaark 10,744]

5 minutes ago, baker boy said:

Met the bloke who owed the bulldog that plummer used, another teacher and dreamer

Wasn't the dog 'the hackett white' mate, or bred down from it?

[Black neck 15,902]

1 hour ago, shaaark said:

Wasn't the dog 'the hackett white' mate, or bred down from it?

Named after seth hackett

[shaaark 10,744]

18 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Named after seth hackett

I'll take your word for it, blacky

[Black neck 15,902]

2 minutes ago, shaaark said:

I'll take your word for it, blacky

Wait what

[fireman 10,884]

6 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

Had to make the decision to let go of my little lad recently,shame as i really liked the dog but he just hated my mrs coming anywhere near me i think he thought i needed protecting from her .....he showed teeth and had half hearted snaps at her quite a few times but properly kicked off at her a few months back so with a grandson i was hoping to introduce to the countryside alongside him it was a no brainer... he was an ok mooching type companion but too highly strung for normal everyday life he,s now living up near Cambridge with a caravan dweller lad i know....seems to be doing ok so alls well that ends well.

Never the easiest thing to do but sometimes it just has to be done,fare paly to you and the best of luck to the little dog..

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

His books seem to have dropped in value not gone up with time .

Look on eBay ,less than new prices .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

On 16/02/2021 at 18:07, fireman said:

He put a russell over a beagle,then fox terrier,bull,patterdale were added along the way.That is what he told folks but plummer was a bullshitter so feck knows what else was added,but the plummer as such has been bred to type and now is a breed with several data bases that hold peds going back to the start of things...

Isn’t there a few breakaway clubs that dispute all the above though Steve .