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4 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I've never got that diagnosis tbh, chiropractors and physios can't really tell you for certain what's wrong. 

I'm guessing mine is muscular because it eventually subsides when I suffer from a flare up. 

It's just funny how after over a decade of proper graft I never suffered with my back and then just on this particular day it went and has never been the same since. 

Run up and down mountains carrying weight, Thai boxing, judo, up and down ladders for years etc and then go and pop my back reaching for a brew while coughing at the same time ?‍♂️?

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Theres also medical proof that long term use of ibuprofen and quite a few different anti inflammatories is really bad for you.Really bad for your stomoch and digestive system.

Tried acupuncture, tiger balm, hot baths, heat pads, freeze sprays, tramadol, diazapam, deep medical  massages , had 6 months of physio after my accident.... Acupuncture worked for a few months, trama

Cheers buddy I went to a chiropractor this after noon only to be bent and twisted in positions I wish I would of done 20 years ago  ?I could hear and feel things grinding and cracking she said I will

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Well I woke up at half 4 this morning sweating like a pig took me ten mins to get out of bed been for a walk earlier and did some stretches as best I could but sat here now I'm starting to stiffen up so could be another early morning wake up call I feel like a tart reading mushs and few others members  problems on here

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Mush' nailed it, in that last post. Been there. Done that.

 

I haven't actually read the last half of this thread. Just feel moved to throw in This little beauty: My Eyes are fukking my own back up, even as I type this.

Eyes are fukked. Age. Perfectly natural.

Only, I'm well over due with my check up / fresh glasses. (This, 'Ooh! Look! We're All Gonna Die!' fukking bollox kicked off Just as I was due my appointment - and was gagging for it!)

I've been wearing ever stronger 'Over the counter' glasses. God alone knows what they're doing to me? But, My Shoulders?!?!

Fukk Me! I'm in fukking Agony! Shoulders. Neck. Back. All from hunching forward to squint at the fukking screen. Scrunching myself up, as I try to fit my fingers into the tunnel visioned notion of a keyboard I now see.

So Much Tension!!!

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1 hour ago, Balaur said:

You can increase font size on your computer...I've recently done it on my phone ? I need to get glasses now, Specsavers are still operating I believe, but I may be wrong...

Yes they are, got a letter and text from them last week saying I was due for a check up.

Rang them on Friday and got an appointment, end of March FFS.

Cheers, D.

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Ive done building work basically all my life, all the twisting,  stetching, lifting wore my back without me really noticing.  Then one day mrs was driving down our drive and a stone about a brick size had fallen on to the drive so i got out to chuck it back to the side of the drive and as i lent down to get it my back just went and i fell down like it been shot . Like others have said it felt like electric in my lower back. Mrs manged to get me up and back into the house but i felt f****d.  She sat me into the single seat in the living room, put swamp people on tv for me and left me so she could take my boy to nursery school. After half hour i was busting for a piss so thought " ill take it slow and get myself up" . I used the door for support and ended up hugging the door as my back went again and swinged with it as it closed and fell into the hallway f****d again. I lay on that floor for 2-3 hours waiting for mrs to come back desperate for a piss. I genuinly considered pissing myself there nd then but in a act of pure self control i held it in. Luckily i did because mrs came back with her parents. I was 25/26 at the time, im now 36 and finally starting to get ito a groove of keeping lm top of it. Up until now my back has gone once a year roughly , i sleep on bedroom floor when it happens as it seems to help and try to stay active during the day as sitting around does it no good. Ive started getting up early recently and doing yoga stretches flr half hour before work and it does seem to be helping. I can spring in and out of trenches were digging in work better than before 

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There's a physio from Swansea area, a small girl who said she could sort out sciatica, i didn't think it was fixable but fairplay. I counted down every minute until she got here, she said  if people don't get it seen too it never goes away.

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Not much to do in an acute phase unless there is a medical/surgical intervention needed. Research suggest that in the great majority of cases keeping mobile is key, when outcomes are compared Physios, Chiros, home mobilisation, pain killers etc all have the same outcomes, basically take some pain killers and keep as mobilise as possible. The only ones with less positive outcomes are those that don't mobilise. Once the acute phase as past she a physio for a review and to get some exercises to try to prevent it happing again, or at least to often.

Ps i write as an ex brickie and current nurse so i have a somewhat problematic back.

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8 hours ago, Welsh_red said:

Ive done building work basically all my life, all the twisting,  stetching, lifting wore my back without me really noticing.  Then one day mrs was driving down our drive and a stone about a brick size had fallen on to the drive so i got out to chuck it back to the side of the drive and as i lent down to get it my back just went and i fell down like it been shot . Like others have said it felt like electric in my lower back. Mrs manged to get me up and back into the house but i felt f****d.  She sat me into the single seat in the living room, put swamp people on tv for me and left me so she could take my boy to nursery school. After half hour i was busting for a piss so thought " ill take it slow and get myself up" . I used the door for support and ended up hugging the door as my back went again and swinged with it as it closed and fell into the hallway f****d again. I lay on that floor for 2-3 hours waiting for mrs to come back desperate for a piss. I genuinly considered pissing myself there nd then but in a act of pure self control i held it in. Luckily i did because mrs came back with her parents. I was 25/26 at the time, im now 36 and finally starting to get ito a groove of keeping lm top of it. Up until now my back has gone once a year roughly , i sleep on bedroom floor when it happens as it seems to help and try to stay active during the day as sitting around does it no good. Ive started getting up early recently and doing yoga stretches flr half hour before work and it does seem to be helping. I can spring in and out of trenches were digging in work better than before 

I’m the same when mine goes not as bad as some lads on here f***ing bad so I feel far ya but I have to lay on hard floor knees up arms folded across me last anywhere to a month normally

from dislocating my knees as a teenager the recon I recon it was moving a plant pot for me old lady lol picked it up turned just felt a little niggle next morning could move for pain 

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44 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Not much to do in an acute phase unless there is a medical/surgical intervention needed. Research suggest that in the great majority of cases keeping mobile is key, when outcomes are compared Physios, Chiros, home mobilisation, pain killers etc all have the same outcomes, basically take some pain killers and keep as mobilise as possible. The only ones with less positive outcomes are those that don't mobilise. Once the acute phase as past she a physio for a review and to get some exercises to try to prevent it happing again, or at least to often.

Ps i write as an ex brickie and current nurse so i have a somewhat problematic back.

No word of a lie when I rang the NHS to try and see a physio I had to wait for a phone call back after a fortnight or so, the lady who took the call went through my symptoms and one of the remedies she gave me was to think positive and try to believe you have no pain. Wtf is that all about, she tried explaining that our brain is still programmed to feel the pain in anticipation after the first severe episode. 

I personally think that's a load of bollocks as my pain is haphazard, some movements that I would swear will have given me a flare up haven't and some minor things have. 

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27 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

No word of a lie when I rang the NHS to try and see a physio I had to wait for a phone call back after a fortnight or so, the lady who took the call went through my symptoms and one of the remedies she gave me was to think positive and try to believe you have no pain. Wtf is that all about, she tried explaining that our brain is still programmed to feel the pain in anticipation after the first severe episode. 

I personally think that's a load of bollocks as my pain is haphazard, some movements that I would swear will have given me a flare up haven't and some minor things have. 

'Zen therapy' ............ embrace it, grasshopper ?

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18 hours ago, Greb147 said:

No word of a lie when I rang the NHS to try and see a physio I had to wait for a phone call back after a fortnight or so, the lady who took the call went through my symptoms and one of the remedies she gave me was to think positive and try to believe you have no pain. Wtf is that all about, she tried explaining that our brain is still programmed to feel the pain in anticipation after the first severe episode. 

I personally think that's a load of bollocks as my pain is haphazard, some movements that I would swear will have given me a flare up haven't and some minor things have. 

It tends to be a cumulative event, so at times the tiniest movements are the straw that breaks the donkeys back. I find heavy weight etc no problem but twisting is the trigger.

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19 hours ago, Greb147 said:

No word of a lie when I rang the NHS to try and see a physio I had to wait for a phone call back after a fortnight or so, the lady who took the call went through my symptoms and one of the remedies she gave me was to think positive and try to believe you have no pain. Wtf is that all about, she tried explaining that our brain is still programmed to feel the pain in anticipation after the first severe episode. 

I personally think that's a load of bollocks as my pain is haphazard, some movements that I would swear will have given me a flare up haven't and some minor things have. 

Mate I spent two weeks in bed with no feeling in my legs from doing up my shoe laces, yet could unload a lorry of hundred weight bags then spend a day plastering, there is no rhym or reason to it, we are beasts of burden ?

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On 08/01/2021 at 10:28, shaaark said:

? made me laugh that lol. But definitely does help. 

@Blackmag I've had ALL treatments on my back, including accupuncture and accupressure. Chiroptactor, osteopath etc etc, after a near fatal accident 21 years ago.  Best thing, for me, was definitely chiropractor, who 'should' give you a good stretching and flexibility programme to follow, to be performed a couple of times per day. Maybe not available for many people, but I only live a couple of miles from the university of wales, where I had my treatment, and they also have their own 'rehabilitation' gym, and you do a programme of specific strengthening ecercises for a few weeks after your course of chiropractic treatments. Can work out expensive, if you can find a good chiroprator, but certainly better than shoving loads of painkillers and anti inflammatories into your system.

Good luck with it ?

Cheers buddy I went to a chiropractor this after noon only to be bent and twisted in positions I wish I would of done 20 years ago  ?I could hear and feel things grinding and cracking she said I will feel stiff for a couple of days she weren't kidding 50 sheets to get battered by a ronader rousey wannabe ho well I hope it pays off 

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