hounddog3 739 Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 11 hours ago, grompz said: any of the irish lads on here, heard or know anything about the rathcreevagh deerhounds, bred in the republic, by a chap by the name of alan, is this alan charles who bred a good strain of deerhounds anddeerhoundxs, heard these dogs carry a bit of doxhope, and coursing lines in them, any of you boys, seen any thing out of them run, or are they just another money spinner, price tag of 1200 quid, just asking. I dont think he breeds greyhound,s x any more .He has about 12 full bred,s and would give you a service of 1 of them he didnt charge anywhere near 1200 for a pup. Quote Link to post
grompz 703 Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 11 hours ago, hounddog3 said: I dont think he breeds greyhound,s x any more .He has about 12 full bred,s and would give you a service of 1 of them he didnt charge anywhere near 1200 for a pup. reason that i stated the 1200 for a pup was that alan had alitter of litter of pure deerhound pups, advertised in dec 9th2020 country mans weekly, ive got contact for him now, so i will be able to talk to the man direct,price is irrelevant if there is qualitybreeding in them, but just my opinion, thankyou lads for your feedback.atb 2 Quote Link to post
Campbell 6 Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 25/12/2020 at 10:30, grompz said: any of the irish lads on here, heard or know anything about the rathcreevagh deerhounds, bred in the republic, by a chap by the name of alan, is this alan charles who bred a good strain of deerhounds anddeerhoundxs, heard these dogs carry a bit of doxhope, and coursing lines in them, any of you boys, seen any thing out of them run, or are they just another money spinner, price tag of 1200 quid, just asking. I sent a message to an Irish Breeder of Scottish Deerhounds the year before last, it may well have been this guy. A top breeder. The thing that prompted me was that the Deerhounds were described as being redder in colour than you would see in the UK. The kennel club possibly has preferences for the colour of Deerhounds that everyone recognizes. Maybe narrowing the gene pool available, to the detriment o' the Deerhound type? Some Deerhounds in Ireland seem to have a different colour gene. Red. Such dogs would likely improve the Gene pool in the UK if bred with dogs here. Especially working Deerhound strains if brought over. A broader Gene pool with a wider range of colouration would likely bring back some of the older Deerhound genetics too, as well as a broader variety of colour. It might result in more vigour which unfortunately Deerhounds are in need of due to the likes of Bone Cancer. Irish hounds have been the creme de la creme for the last 2,000 years. Puppy farming etc etc has sadly overshadowed this a bit. However it's true. The best Sighthounds are often bred in Ireland. There were very few breeders of Scottish Deerhounds in ROI. I think actually I only found one breeder. I regret the breeder didn't email me back. I think the price was 1200, either Euros or pounds which I would have invested to try and raise a good stud dog. That was the plan. ATB Quote Link to post
hounddog3 739 Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Campbell said: I sent a message to an Irish Breeder of Scottish Deerhounds the year before last, it may well have been this guy. A top breeder. The thing that prompted me was that the Deerhounds were described as being redder in colour than you would see in the UK. The kennel club possibly has preferences for the colour of Deerhounds that everyone recognizes. Maybe narrowing the gene pool available, to the detriment o' the Deerhound type? Some Deerhounds in Ireland seem to have a different colour gene. Red. Such dogs would likely improve the Gene pool in the UK if bred with dogs here. Especially working Deerhound strains if brought over. A broader Gene pool with a wider range of colouration would likely bring back some of the older Deerhound genetics too, as well as a broader variety of colour. It might result in more vigour which unfortunately Deerhounds are in need of due to the likes of Bone Cancer. Irish hounds have been the creme de la creme for the last 2,000 years. Puppy farming etc etc has sadly overshadowed this a bit. However it's true. The best Sighthounds are often bred in Ireland. There were very few breeders of Scottish Deerhounds in ROI. I think actually I only found one breeder. I regret the breeder didn't email me back. I think the price was 1200, either Euros or pounds which I would have invested to try and raise a good stud dog. That was the plan. ATB Ya some of his his r a silver color every so often maybe only 1 in the litter so he keep,s them the Doxhope breeding is throw most of his dogs way back . Quote Link to post
Campbell 6 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 On 26/12/2020 at 22:23, hounddog3 said: I knew the Irish would have better dogs. ATB and may 2021 be a far better year than 2020. Quote Link to post
Marvel 469 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 On 24/12/2020 at 16:43, jukel123 said: If I were to get a deer/grey.I think I would go for 1/4 deer 3/4 grey bitch. Just to bring the size down. Anybody any experience of owning this cross? Yes Quote Link to post
jukel123 7,710 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 15 hours ago, Marvel said: Yes/ And? How do / did you find this cross? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 11,642 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 26/12/2020 at 20:11, Campbell said: I sent a message to an Irish Breeder of Scottish Deerhounds the year before last, it may well have been this guy. A top breeder. The thing that prompted me was that the Deerhounds were described as being redder in colour than you would see in the UK. The kennel club possibly has preferences for the colour of Deerhounds that everyone recognizes. Maybe narrowing the gene pool available, to the detriment o' the Deerhound type? Some Deerhounds in Ireland seem to have a different colour gene. Red. Such dogs would likely improve the Gene pool in the UK if bred with dogs here. Especially working Deerhound strains if brought over. A broader Gene pool with a wider range of colouration would likely bring back some of the older Deerhound genetics too, as well as a broader variety of colour. It might result in more vigour which unfortunately Deerhounds are in need of due to the likes of Bone Cancer. Irish hounds have been the creme de la creme for the last 2,000 years. Puppy farming etc etc has sadly overshadowed this a bit. However it's true. The best Sighthounds are often bred in Ireland. There were very few breeders of Scottish Deerhounds in ROI. I think actually I only found one breeder. I regret the breeder didn't email me back. I think the price was 1200, either Euros or pounds which I would have invested to try and raise a good stud dog. That was the plan. ATB Alot has the red gene in Ireland even the dogs lol 1 Quote Link to post
Marvel 469 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, jukel123 said: And? How do / did you find this cross? The one I had was from Dave slighte,it was bred from a small greyhound bitch 25in I think to a Platts stud dog, the bitch pup I took turned out black rough coated and 25in and absolutely rapid and mad keen to use it’s mouth, but it’s do or die attitude was it’s downfall it dun a wrist in diving below the bottom wire on a fence when lamping one night and was never the same, I guess we’ll never know if it would of made a really good dog but That’s the dog game for you, if anyone’s thinking of this cross go for it. 1 Quote Link to post
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