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I gave up work over 6 years ago to be there for our kids. It was either that or use a crèche & later some other kind of child care. We have no family around us to help so something had to give.

That said, under different circumstances that probably wouldn’t of been possible, so I hate to come across as holier than thou.....we are simply just really lucky to be able to do what we’ve done.
 

However I see lots of parents, including my best mate, who could of made the same sacrifice, but don’t. Affluent, career minded people who have clearly chose material gain or career choices over time spent with their kids. Or even prioritise cars & other toys over quality food! 

As for discipline, that can easily be attained without smacking. My kids are 7 & 5 have never received a smack or even the threat of a smack. I doubt that will change anytime soon. They are polite & really well behaved kids. Smacking is a cop out imo.

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Life is so differant now days. 

If we disciplined our children they way we were, it definitely would result in prision time, and rightly so in some cases.

Also people of our age/generation, for the most part, that I know of, haven't turned out bad people, or alcoholics, drug abusers or unstable because of our hard up bringing ( still doesn't justify it)

It seems you can, break a child these days, just by looking at them sternly, (exaggerated I know). That also is not a good thing for children either, been to soft abd easy going.Parents are afraid to say no for some reason.

Atb j 

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Kids benefit from having a parent at home, there is no two ways about it.

Kids don’t give a toss if you have have a Rolls Royce in the drive or are eating beans in toast.

They just want some love, attention and the stability of knowing someone is always there imho

However, I don’t think you can be too hard on people.

When a 3 bed semi is £400,000 plus £2000 a year in taxes it don’t leave a lot of room for manoeuvring.

It used to be that the image of the housewife was promoted but that has changed, when was the last time you saw something promoting being a stay at home parent ?.........these people are now held up as being a bit odd, they are subject of TV shows like they are some kind of circus freak in a world where everyone should be getting on the train at 6 am after dumping the nipper into childcare and having a £60 grand merc on the book and a new kitchen with new windows ! 
Deliberate imho, absolutely deliberate.

Over here a thing I noticed is that they don’t have those “pay day loan” adverts on the telly, I’m not even sure they have the companies that do them.......cut to the U.K. and it’s every other advert ! 
 

As I said, it’s engineering to transfer the product of labour into interest repayments and tax to benefit politicians and the large financial institutions that pull their strings.

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8 hours ago, Accip74 said:

I gave up work over 6 years ago to be there for our kids. It was either that or use a crèche & later some other kind of child care. We have no family around us to help so something had to give.

That said, under different circumstances that probably wouldn’t of been possible, so I hate to come across as holier than thou.....we are simply just really lucky to be able to do what we’ve done.
 

However I see lots of parents, including my best mate, who could of made the same sacrifice, but don’t. Affluent, career minded people who have clearly chose material gain or career choices over time spent with their kids. Or even prioritise cars & other toys over quality food! 

As for discipline, that can easily be attained without smacking. My kids are 7 & 5 have never received a smack or even the threat of a smack. I doubt that will change anytime soon. They are polite & really well behaved kids. Smacking is a cop out imo.

Agreed on the discipline mate but the threat of a whack is more powerful than the act .

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Sid I just looked back and you picked 53 and that's a fair Guess.

Now THL resident anal invader "ray" who has spent a lot of his time around that area even causing a lifelong injury of a bad back for his determination to literally knock the back out of females at the time.

has confirmed that number 50 is spot on the pink balloon knot.

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40 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

I was wondering today how many of you lads have family's as big as your parents

 Interesting point, now you mention it.

My Great Grandma had about two dozen, that we know of. (Yes. She was, basically, pregnant her entire fukking life! I have the papers to prove it)

Her daughter - one of them. My Gran - went on to have just six. My mum stopped at three.

I've, pointedly, never inflicted this shit we call " Life " on anyone.

Maybe it's a learning curve?

 

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3 minutes ago, WILF said:

Us and another friend of ours had the biggest families at my girls junior school.

I had 4 and our friend had 6 and we were regarded as unusual 

You went to a girls junior school? 

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I think alot to do with family size depends on social economics ; I came from a poor area and am 1 of four but went to a grammar school where it was all 1s and 2s. My daughter's school sits on a line between average Joe's and poverty; some of the families have 5,6 and 7 kids and I don't think it coincidental they're predominantly from a few very run down streets

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