How socialty has changed

[jetro 5,349]

7 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Without being to rude on the younger generation a lot of modern men are like tarts and just don’t have the minerals, my better half stopped working when my first was borne and has never gone back, I used to work 12 hrs a days 7 days a week and a couple of nights as well, I’d grab a few hours kip on the sofa and be at it again, everything comes with a price and if you want it you have to raise your game, it’s a bit like a conversation on here recently we’re born has scrimped and saved to get a house well most of his generation just moan how unfair everything is then spend a ton on a bobble hat and a grand on a coat, I have a private nursery behind my house that charges £50 a day most of the toddlers are dumped off at 7/730 am and picked up around the same time of night by a dolly bird mum in a new merc or bmw, well if they were not ticked upto there eyeballs to have a stupid car and paying £50 a day for someone else to look after there offspring, they could actually afford to stay home the same as we did, but there choice is different, there priority’s are different and there values are different, I,ve never owned a car that cost me more than a grand and get most of my hats and coats in charity shops, but my kids have never wanted for anything and still get all I can give them especially my time 

Well written

Atb j 

[bird 9,969]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

There’s a massive question mate, everyone will have a different take on that one but the fact is some things are better and some are worse.

The individual decides which is which in every single case imho 

well wilf, i was born 1952 , 5 kids , i was oldest lad , 2 younger brothers, 2 older sisters . we were brought up to show respect to our elders , if we played up , my old mom would hit us with a boiler stick , she kept in the kitchen, my old man didnt hit us, as he was at work most days, she took control of that, my old man only ever hit me once , when had fight with my younger brother  both in our teens , iknocked him through our kitchen  door, his arm went through the glass, my old man booted me in the guts when he came home from work, fookin wrong really as my brother started the fight hit me, but  i decked him. still looking back at my up bringing , i think kids need a clout now and then, but think they went bit to far, with my own son, i never hit him , just give him a mouthful  that norm done the trick, he grew p to be very nice young 34 year old  bloke, and think he be same with his 2 kids ,as i was with him .

[Blackmag 6,103]

19 minutes ago, bird said:

well wilf, i was born 1952 , 5 kids , i was oldest lad , 2 younger brothers, 2 older sisters . we were brought up to show respect to our elders , if we played up , my old mom would hit us with a boiler stick , she kept in the kitchen, my old man didnt hit us, as he was at work most days, she took control of that, my old man only ever hit me once , when had fight with my younger brother  both in our teens , iknocked him through our kitchen  door, his arm went through the glass, my old man booted me in the guts when he came home from work, fookin wrong really as my brother started the fight hit me, but  i decked him. still looking back at my up bringing , i think kids need a clout now and then, but think they went bit to far, with my own son, i never hit him , just give him a mouthful  that norm done the trick, he grew p to be very nice young 34 year old  bloke, and think he be same with his 2 kids ,as i was with him .

I have 5 brothers and 2 sisters ray we got away more with my mum than the old man he was strict  but are house there was always a scrap going on did you never get that old line wait till your dad gets home there was even a kids programme called wait till your father gets home

[shaaark 10,903]

1 minute ago, Blackmag said:

I have 5 brothers and 2 sisters ray we got away more with my mum than the old man he was strict  but are house there was always a scrap going on did you never get that old line wait till your dad gets home there was even a kids programme called wait till your father gets home

I remember the program lol. With us, it was always my old girl. Horrible, horrible twat of a person. Suffice to say, my old man was the first father in south wales to be given full custody of his kids . 1974.

[Blackmag 6,103]

2 minutes ago, shaaark said:

I remember the program lol. With us, it was always my old girl. Horrible, horrible twat of a person. Suffice to say, my old man was the first father in south wales to be given full custody of his kids . 1974.

Ours were old man my mum would clip us as a last resort but give him any lip you had to have a escape route out of there otherwise you would be sucking oxygen from Carlisle if my mum said no to something  you could nag her and get your own way he said no it was no end of 

[king 11,984]

Quite right there the man used to be the main bred winner back in the day..

But I've seen the waster side of man aswell.i was brought up in my grans in a colliery built terrace house opposite the main pub in the village.from 4yr old till they passed at 18yr old.

From maybe 12yr old onwards I would sit down the pub many a night.but every Friday all the men would come in with there then cash wage packets.

And start drinking and playing 3 card brag.as the night wore on many a men lost all there wages.then the fighting would start no pushing each other proper going at it.about 4 or 5 fights each Friday.the men who lost all there pay would go home without a penny for there wife's or kids for the week.

It was a weekly ritual.now that's no way to live at all.looking back it was a sad time for many a family..

[shaaark 10,903]

13 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

Ours were old man my mum would clip us as a last resort but give him any lip you had to have a escape route out of there otherwise you would be sucking oxygen from Carlisle if my mum said no to something  you could nag her and get your own way he said no it was no end of 

Lol,, I say lol now, but it was no laughing matter at the time! Lol. If we weren't fast enough to escape her clutches, she would grip us, deck us and THRASH us with the first thing she could lay her hands on, could be any object, ubrella, book, shoe, coathanger anything! 

We learnt to run fast at an early age lol, happy days eh

[Ken's Deputy 4,460]

 

 

Just sayin' .....

[shaaark 10,903]

14 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said:

 

 

Just sayin' .....

You doubting the veracity of my statement sir?!

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Proven fact that kids need discipline  . Seems to be lot of lads replying on here around my age if I’m not mistaken .Boundaries  were set and punishment followed the breaking thereof .We never suffered for that discipline unless it was excessive and it taught us our own values which we’ve lived by .I’ve seen the gradual breakdown of society in line with the trend to let kids be with no boundaries .

Im the bread winner ,my wife does the home end of ,same as my parents and their parents before that .

The breakdown of values is THE route to a f****d  society ,values that do actually need to be taught starting at home ,continuing in school and any secondary education thereafter .

My parents instilled values I carry on today ,values like courtesy and politeness .It’s slipped a bit on here on occasion but in general I like to think I’m a decent bloke .

Ive never bought anything I couldn’t afford ,a trait Dad had ,bless him ,and has let me live a debt free life apart from the mortgage .

Everything went tits up when they took away the right to chastise a child and gave the child rights beyond their years .

This isn’t to say kids need beating nor deserve it but a deserved smack when wrong was done kept kids on the right track ,in my book anyway .

My own children never seemed to do much wrong ,I guess a rub off from us two .Lead by example and the rest just falls in place .

Every single wayward kid ,young adult seems to come from waster parents .

[Blackmag 6,103]

When I listen to some of the younger lads talk it's like there in another world one lad lives with a lass there kid is dropped of at child minders both work both drive high end motors on tick  live in a high end house for there age and income she hasn't cooked a meal from scratch since they have lived together about a year its all takeaways and microwave stuff  she spends more on nails lips and hair a week than I do on a big shop he works ever hour just to live I asked him one day why didn't down size the house and motors pay your mortgage of quicker and have a few quid in your pocket his answer the Mrs wouldn't do that she likes the life style 

[shaaark 10,903]

7 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Proven fact that kids need discipline  . Seems to be lot of lads replying on here around my age if I’m not mistaken .Boundaries  were set and punishment followed the breaking thereof .We never suffered for that discipline unless it was excessive and it taught us our own values which we’ve lived by .I’ve seen the gradual breakdown of society in line with the trend to let kids be with no boundaries .

Im the bread winner ,my wife does the home end of ,same as my parents and their parents before that .

The breakdown of values is THE route to a f****d  society ,values that do actually need to be taught starting at home ,continuing in school and any secondary education thereafter .

My parents instilled values I carry on today ,values like courtesy and politeness .It’s slipped a bit on here on occasion but in general I like to think I’m a decent bloke .

Ive never bought anything I couldn’t afford ,a trait Dad had ,bless him ,and has let me live a debt free life apart from the mortgage .

Everything went tits up when they took away the right to chastise a child and gave the child rights beyond their years .

This isn’t to say kids need beating nor deserve it but a deserved smack when wrong was done kept kids on the right track ,in my book anyway .

My own children never seemed to do much wrong ,I guess a rub off from us two .Lead by example and the rest just falls in place .

Every single wayward kid ,young adult seems to come from waster parents .

Good post that fd

[WILF 47,432]

Blimey, right here we go.......

Society has been completely re-engineered in the last 70 years.

Food spend used to be 50% of household budget and one parent could stay home no bother.

Now food spend is 8% of household budget and both parents have to work like dogs and they still never have money spare (as a rule) 

None of that happened by accident.

There has been a systematic transfer of wealth and the value of labour over to the state and its financial institution mates.

This has happened at the expense of the family unit, the British village, the British town, the industry and it has led to massive social problems.

They don’t want people to prosper they want debt slaves and they are quiet willing (or have been thus far) to sacrifice everything that we ever held dear, our culture and our values.....those things just get in the way.

They have subsidised the point of sale cost of food to create a false illusion of wealth, the fact is food is just as expensive except you now pay it in tax to a whole list of civil servants and politicians and the farmer don’t see hardly any of it.

The rhetoric they have used to kill our culture and feed us shit is that “we shouldn’t care”.......to care is to be a nut case, shouted down and outcast.....sometimes imprisoned.

As I never, ever tire of saying......everything matters, everything is connected.

 

[king 11,984]

12 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Proven fact that kids need discipline  . Seems to be lot of lads replying on here around my age if I’m not mistaken .Boundaries  were set and punishment followed the breaking thereof .We never suffered for that discipline unless it was excessive and it taught us our own values which we’ve lived by .I’ve seen the gradual breakdown of society in line with the trend to let kids be with no boundaries .

Im the bread winner ,my wife does the home end of ,same as my parents and their parents before that .

The breakdown of values is THE route to a f****d  society ,values that do actually need to be taught starting at home ,continuing in school and any secondary education thereafter .

My parents instilled values I carry on today ,values like courtesy and politeness .It’s slipped a bit on here on occasion but in general I like to think I’m a decent bloke .

Ive never bought anything I couldn’t afford ,a trait Dad had ,bless him ,and has let me live a debt free life apart from the mortgage .

Everything went tits up when they took away the right to chastise a child and gave the child rights beyond their years .

This isn’t to say kids need beating nor deserve it but a deserved smack when wrong was done kept kids on the right track ,in my book anyway .

My own children never seemed to do much wrong ,I guess a rub off from us two .Lead by example and the rest just falls in place .

Every single wayward kid ,young adult seems to come from waster parents .

100% agree the result of banning smacking is now being seen.the youth have no respect for there elders at all.not all but a fair % of them don't..

There are a lot of decent folks around mind.that have come from waster parents.they have had a front seat in seeing how such parents life styles can ruin a lot of things..

[dogmandont 9,876]

I wish my kids could have a mixture of my upbringing and their own present day upbringing, dont think many kids nowadays get to experience the freedoms that our generation had as kids and it's a real shame.