NEWKID 27,047 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, sandymere said: The vaccine underwent all the standard safety trials of any vaccine, they may have done them concurrently rather than one after the other but how does that make them any the less valid? If you think about it as an industrial process, which it is in part, if you have 4 people each make a chair leg at the same time you get a chair a lot quicker than if you just have one person making them, but its still the same chair, the only difference is you pay 4 wages instead of one but get chairs 4 times as quick. So in the same way the vaccine had all the usual studies but rather than only beginning one after the other they did many of them at the same time, so the same whole time spent on trails. Thats how to say it... Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,108 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sandymere said: The vaccine underwent all the standard safety trials of any vaccine, they may have done them concurrently rather than one after the other but how does that make them any the less valid? If you think about it as an industrial process, which it is in part, if you have 4 people each make a chair leg at the same time you get a chair a lot quicker than if you just have one person making them, but its still the same chair, the only difference is you pay 4 wages instead of one but get chairs 4 times as quick. So in the same way the vaccine had all the usual studies but rather than only beginning one after the other they did many of them at the same time, so the same whole time spent on trails. Lol sandy tested is it lol I seen the just retired head of pzifer research and development company who made vaccinrle He said I won't have it im fit healthy And I also wouldn't have it because when I was trialling drugs it took 5 years of testing It hasn't had nowhere near that Edited January 1, 2021 by mC HULL Link to post Share on other sites
thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, sandymere said: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30527-0/fulltext Amazing how there is hardly any flu about this winter, maybe it is to do with misdiagnosis from using the pcr test which is not very accurate and is still being ran at over 37 cycles which even the world health organisation admits is to high to give an accurate diagnosis, yet all the pcr tests around the world are still ran at this rate and even higher which produces massive amounts of false positive results, all these case numbers and deaths we hear of are all based on a massively flawed testing system, even the man who invented the pcr test has said this, just a shame he is dead now or he would have a lot to say about it I’m sure 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,921 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, NEWKID said: OK...put to one side... The speed is in line with the funds, man hours, backing etc...the time was a constraint so it was backed ..we have all put our faith in vaccines for many years, I bet you'd never looked at how long the vax were operational when you took them for your first trip to the far east...I know I didn't.... This has been 1 of my points all along NK that noone has ever given a flying f**k about what's in the vaccines, what tests where done before on any other vaccines and I bet every one of them has had their kids jabbed Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,497 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 What a terrible world we live in eh lads, I received a letter yesterday from the hospital I am to attend on the 12th of this month , I have been asked for vehicle registration and my mobile number, I am not allowed to enter the hospital, and that I must wear a mask, at my appointment time, someone will ring me ask where im parked, and come out to me Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,108 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, sandymere said: The vaccine underwent all the standard safety trials of any vaccine, they may have done them concurrently rather than one after the other but how does that make them any the less valid? If you think about it as an industrial process, which it is in part, if you have 4 people each make a chair leg at the same time you get a chair a lot quicker than if you just have one person making them, but its still the same chair, the only difference is you pay 4 wages instead of one but get chairs 4 times as quick. So in the same way the vaccine had all the usual studies but rather than only beginning one after the other they did many of them at the same time, so the same whole time spent on trails. Some side effects take years to show not months mate Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,108 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, iworkwhippets said: What a terrible world we live in eh lads, I received a letter yesterday from the hospital I am to attend on the 12th of this month , I have been asked for vehicle registration and my mobile number, I am not allowed to enter the hospital, and that I must wear a mask, at my appointment time, someone will ring me ask where im parked, and come out to me That's it mate the truth there not seeing people properly not doing operations its a joke Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,497 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 of course people aren't being seen properly, the world is in a mess Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,047 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, South hams hunter said: This has been 1 of my points all along NK that noone has ever given a flying f**k about what's in the vaccines, what tests where done before on any other vaccines and I bet every one of them has had their kids jabbed Its polarised mate, the world is talking about it and suddenly everyone is an expert...I've heard more shit from lads about, vaccines, new world order, scientific research..etc etc the same lads who 18 months ago knew f**k all about anything, they were talking about birds, football and the next job on... I dont know f**k all about vaccines, I never have...but when I went to Thailand many years ago I took the vaccines, when I went to Africa the same, carribean the same...etc etc...they could've been knocked up in a back alley off Union Street the day before for all I knew...but I took them... I do know that money buys time and accelerates process...its what we see in many industries...chuck a load of money at something and people shit miracles ...I'm just thinking that there has never been so much money chucked at anything ever....so chances are they have done it a bit quicker than normal..lol 2 Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,047 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said: What a terrible world we live in eh lads, I received a letter yesterday from the hospital I am to attend on the 12th of this month , I have been asked for vehicle registration and my mobile number, I am not allowed to enter the hospital, and that I must wear a mask, at my appointment time, someone will ring me ask where im parked, and come out to me Sounds like a decent service Keith, never before would you have been escorted to the correct place..I've spent way to long lost in hospitals...at least some good eh Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,108 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Sounds like a decent service Keith, never before would you have been escorted to the correct place..I've spent way to long lost in hospitals...at least some good eh He be getting diagnosed in is motor lol not escorted in lol Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,497 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 im not complaining Kev, im 76 you cant go through life without summat going wrong with your body, im just saying, what god awful times we are living in, but hitlers bombs didn't get me, neither will the virus, its the isolation that's getting to me, human contact to put your arms around someone, 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,047 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, mC HULL said: He be getting diagnosed in is motor lol not escorted in lol Even better ..... not sitting in there for ever 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,108 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 How can I come bk at that Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,047 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, iworkwhippets said: im not complaining Kev, im 76 you cant go through life without summat going wrong with your body, im just saying, what god awful times we are living in, but hitlers bombs didn't get me, neither will the virus, its the isolation that's getting to me, human contact to put your arms around someone, I know mate, times are shit its damaging everyone in some way and I do really feel for the older generation mate...you've said about loneliness alot mate and this is compounding it... I get that mate . I hope the appointment goes well mate, hopefully your in and out of the car park in quick time . Link to post Share on other sites
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