Greb147 6,809 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Francie said: You haven't explained yourself very well. So are you saying if your vaccinated,you cant spread it? That is very rare and is dependent on the type of vaccine from what I gather. Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,978 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Blackmag said: Like I say buddy you can see the signs ocd ect but I know cams told us they like to wait till there sure which in our case was round 7 year old but as you know buddy every child is different Wrong thread for my post Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,342 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 My youngest didn’t present any signs until he started school, we always knew he was a bit sparky but he had not problems in play school at all. The demands of regular school he just couldn’t deal with at all. They did an IQ test and he was off the chart, the woman couldn’t turn the pages of the test fast enough ! However, that was after it had taken him 45 minutes to decide wether he liked her enough to interact with her. Like King said, he does all the climbing thing. He absorbs knowledge but try and sit him down to do something with structure like reading and writing and you can forget it.....he wants to, but he just can’t bring himself to do something so rigid. We home school him because we have discovered that he will just work to his own timeline, that don’t fit well with school structure. Its gentle process and a new experience after having 3 other kids who just did what they were meant to do and did it well, never a problem. The big man upstairs obviously felt we needed something to think about and he is my little challenging gift from god. I adore all his funny little quirks, I love how at 7 he still wants to snuggle in with me and his mum every night, I live how he don’t give a fig for the world and it’s “rules”......he makes this little family smile and laugh every single day. We are lucky as I think he is at the milder end of the spectrum and I know some folks are having to deal with really hard non verbal kids.......those people are legends ! My wife is on the committee of the Irish home education network now. Keeps life interesting don’t it boys 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,102 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WILF said: My youngest didn’t present any signs until he started school, we always knew he was a bit sparky but he had not problems in play school at all. The demands of regular school he just couldn’t deal with at all. They did an IQ test and he was off the chart, the woman couldn’t turn the pages of the test fast enough ! However, that was after it had taken him 45 minutes to decide wether he liked her enough to interact with her. Like King said, he does all the climbing thing. He absorbs knowledge but try and sit him down to do something with structure like reading and writing and you can forget it.....he wants to, but he just can’t bring himself to do something so rigid. We home school him because we have discovered that he will just work to his own timeline, that don’t fit well with school structure. Its gentle process and a new experience after having 3 other kids who just did what they were meant to do and did it well, never a problem. The big man upstairs obviously felt we needed something to think about and he is my little challenging gift from god. I adore all his funny little quirks, I love how at 7 he still wants to snuggle in with me and his mum every night, I live how he don’t give a fig for the world and it’s “rules”......he makes this little family smile and laugh every single day. We are lucky as I think he is at the milder end of the spectrum and I know some folks are having to deal with really hard non verbal kids.......those people are legends ! My wife is on the committee of the Irish home education network now. Keeps life interesting don’t it boys That's it in a nut shell mate great post Edited December 3, 2020 by Blackmag 1 Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,721 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, WILF said: My youngest didn’t present any signs until he started school, we always knew he was a bit sparky but he had not problems in play school at all. The demands of regular school he just couldn’t deal with at all. They did an IQ test and he was off the chart, the woman couldn’t turn the pages of the test fast enough ! However, that was after it had taken him 45 minutes to decide wether he liked her enough to interact with her. Like King said, he does all the climbing thing. He absorbs knowledge but try and sit him down to do something with structure like reading and writing and you can forget it.....he wants to, but he just can’t bring himself to do something so rigid. We home school him because we have discovered that he will just work to his own timeline, that don’t fit well with school structure. Its gentle process and a new experience after having 3 other kids who just did what they were meant to do and did it well, never a problem. The big man upstairs obviously felt we needed something to think about and he is my little challenging gift from god. I adore all his funny little quirks, I love how at 7 he still wants to snuggle in with me and his mum every night, I live how he don’t give a fig for the world and it’s “rules”......he makes this little family smile and laugh every single day. We are lucky as I think he is at the milder end of the spectrum and I know some folks are having to deal with really hard non verbal kids.......those people are legends ! My wife is on the committee of the Irish home education network now. Keeps life interesting don’t it boys wilf , i have no understanding of this type of condition ,and this is a genuine question , does diet affect the condition atall Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Greb147 said: That is very rare and is dependent on the type of vaccine from what I gather. Right so your statement about unvaccinated people is porkies then? How do you know that us unvaccinated folk haven't built up antibodies unknowingly? The virus is hear at least 11 months,most folk probably has been exposed to it,that's antibodies built up,what the vaccine aims to do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, WILF said: My youngest didn’t present any signs until he started school, we always knew he was a bit sparky but he had not problems in play school at all. The demands of regular school he just couldn’t deal with at all. They did an IQ test and he was off the chart, the woman couldn’t turn the pages of the test fast enough ! However, that was after it had taken him 45 minutes to decide wether he liked her enough to interact with her. Like King said, he does all the climbing thing. He absorbs knowledge but try and sit him down to do something with structure like reading and writing and you can forget it.....he wants to, but he just can’t bring himself to do something so rigid. We home school him because we have discovered that he will just work to his own timeline, that don’t fit well with school structure. Its gentle process and a new experience after having 3 other kids who just did what they were meant to do and did it well, never a problem. The big man upstairs obviously felt we needed something to think about and he is my little challenging gift from god. I adore all his funny little quirks, I love how at 7 he still wants to snuggle in with me and his mum every night, I live how he don’t give a fig for the world and it’s “rules”......he makes this little family smile and laugh every single day. We are lucky as I think he is at the milder end of the spectrum and I know some folks are having to deal with really hard non verbal kids.......those people are legends ! My wife is on the committee of the Irish home education network now. Keeps life interesting don’t it boys Heart warming wilf mate,thanks for sharing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, Francie said: Right so your statement about unvaccinated people is porkies then? How do you know that us unvaccinated folk haven't built up antibodies unknowingly? The virus is hear at least 11 months,most folk probably has been exposed to it,that's antibodies built up,what the vaccine aims to do. How is it porkies you plonker, you actually don't understand how unvaccinated people put those vulnerable at risk? Regarding natural immunity, they are still doing research on that last time I read as they were doubtful it was a lasting immunity. Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,342 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, riohog said: wilf , i have no understanding of this type of condition ,and this is a genuine question , does diet affect the condition atall I don’t know mate. Mine only sits at the table to eat when he feels like it, he grazes all day. At the minute he won’t use his fingers because of corona virus !! Lol So, toast has to be cut up and he uses a fork.....but if the fork touches something else he has to change it for a fresh fork ! All stuff like that.......we are used to it mate 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, Greb147 said: How is it porkies you plonker, you actually don't understand how unvaccinated people put those vulnerable at risk? Regarding natural immunity, they are still doing research on that last time I read as they were doubtful it was a lasting immunity. Your catching on now,well hurry up an answer the question then,I don't understand, how unvaccinated people put those vulnerable at risk? Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,721 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, WILF said: I don’t know mate. Mine only sits at the table to eat when he feels like it, he grazes all day. At the minute he won’t use his fingers because of corona virus !! Lol So, toast has to be cut up and he uses a fork.....but if the fork touches something else he has to change it for a fresh fork ! All stuff like that.......we are used to it mate what i ment wilf is the type of food , re; do certain types of food exasebate the condition Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, riohog said: what i ment wilf is the type of food , re; do certain types of food exasebate the condition I'd say sugar wouldn't help matters lol Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,721 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, Francie said: I'd say sugar wouldn't help matters lol i was getting at something like that Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Francie said: Your catching on now,well hurry up an answer the question then,I don't understand, how unvaccinated people put those vulnerable at risk? You need to address the question again pal cos you're not making sense. You are basically asking me why the old and vulnerable are at risk? Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 950 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 02/12/2020 at 09:47, Born Hunter said: I feel like the dominant area of elevated risk (compared with a 'normal' vaccine) is in finding yourself in a group which for whatever reason don't respond well to vaccination (efficacy). As opposed to nasty side effects. I believe side effects are usually found out in Phase II. Reason I say this is that Phase III trials have vaccinated over ten thousand people for each vaccine candidate. If that were a medicine then it's a sufficient number of people to satisfy regulators in 'normal' times and there really wouldn't be anything 'rushed' about this. But because we're dealing with a vaccine there's another important number to look at, how many people who were vaccinated fought off the virus compared with the same in the placebo group. And this number is much smaller and not yet satisfactory to complete Phase III and is important because it tells us about efficacy. This is the rushed part because at the present time we're dealing with numbers like 100 infections in the placebo group vs five in the vaccine group (out of a total group size of like 30'000). That's good of course, you want low infection in the vaccinated group, lol, but you want high infection in the placebo group to get the stats up to find demographics that the vaccine might not be working on. Part of the reason this has moved faster than 'normal' vaccine development is the relative high infection rates in the world right now speeding things up, partly the massive demand and so money available, partly eliminating dead time in the process, and partly the fact that the governments of the world are willing to roll vaccines out before completion of phase III and so deep knowledge of it's efficacy and to a lesser extend imo safety. I've got to be honest, I find it f***ing remarkable the shit off the street folks will take for a good time but these vaccines leave them uncomfortable. I've got to be honest i f***ing agree. all the shit i done over the years and all the jabs for allsorts (lucky I like liquorish) and i don't like having the flu jab I'm supposed to have and I'm thinking i don't want the covid one. WHY?...... Fkd if I know. Link to post Share on other sites
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