walshie 2,804 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Greb147 said: The same can be said of those who don't want it. At the end of the day you have two choices once offered it. I don't see anyone who doesn't want it trying to get anyone else not to. You're right though. It's a simple yes or no choice. Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 People keep going on about the death rates yet no two countries have the same way of recording Covid related deaths. I am convinced that the UK is allowing GPs to certify Covid as cause of death even though there was no evidence of Covid having actually caused the death. It is all about preventing the need for post mortems and all the delays and negative issues a back log of dead bodies would cause. If you look at the stats for the overall death rate it doesn't reflect 100,000 extra deaths as the press are portraying. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,838 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, socks said: Am I an anti vaxer in your opinion ? Your certainly anti the covid vax. 4 minutes ago, walshie said: Why are the people who want the vax so dead set on trying to change everyone's opinion to the same as theirs? What and those against the vax don't do the same. Take the blinkers off walshie. Link to post Share on other sites
Ted Newgent 4,896 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Ottawa nurse tests positive for coronavirus after receiving COVID-19 vaccine GLOBALNEWS.CA An Ottawa nurse says he has tested positive for the coronavirus a few days after receiving his second dose of the... Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, dogmandont said: Your certainly anti the covid vax. What and those against the vax don't do the same. Take the blinkers off walshie. No blinkers. I just don't care if others want it or not. Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nicepix said: People keep going on about the death rates yet no two countries have the same way of recording Covid related deaths. I am convinced that the UK is allowing GPs to certify Covid as cause of death even though there was no evidence of Covid having actually caused the death. It is all about preventing the need for post mortems and all the delays and negative issues a back log of dead bodies would cause. If you look at the stats for the overall death rate it doesn't reflect 100,000 extra deaths as the press are portraying. Who's to say the death rates aren't higher? "ooh, look at how well we've handled this crisis." Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,838 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, walshie said: No blinkers. I just don't care if others want it or not. And I'm the same, I'll not be having it if I'm offered it and my kids certainly won't be having it but I can see the benefits of a vaccine to the elderly and vulnerable. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, dogmandont said: Your certainly anti the covid vax. What and those against the vax don't do the same. Take the blinkers off walshie. Yes I am but that doesn’t make me an anti vaxer does it. Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,600 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 I will take my chances but if ever the day comes when not being vaccinated stops me from doing what I want in life then I will have the jab I never thought the day would come when I wished members of my family two wives better off out of it this is no world to live in masked up don't do this don't go there f**k that 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 I'm upping my game. Just bought some max strength vitamin D3. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Greb147 said: I'm upping my game. Just bought some max strength vitamin D3. Keep an eye on your blood pressure.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,838 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, socks said: Yes I am but that doesn’t make me an anti vaxer does it. Only you can answer that socks as I don't know your stance on the rest. I understand people's reservations about the vaccine as I feel the same but for some is has to be lesser of 2 evils surely. For someone like Keith with health issues I can only see the benefits of the vaccine but it seems somewhere along the line he's charged his mind about it and that would be a travisty if was because of some self proclaimed expert on here spouting half truths and nonsense Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,820 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, dogmandont said: because of some self proclaimed expert on here spouting half truths and nonsense But this is what half the 'pro vaccine' members on here are doing by pasting and copying sets of numbers, data, graphs etc, which they DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 100% FACTUAL OR NOT. And no-one, not even the boffins, know exactly how this is all going to pan out, how long the vaccines will protect people for, what long term side effects etc etc are going to be. Me and mine certainly aint having it, and you yourself have just said you're not, and several others on this site aint, so how exactly does just that one decision to not have a covid vaccine, automatically make us 'anti vaxxers'? Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,838 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, shaaark said: But this is what half the 'pro vaccine' members on here are doing by pasting and copying sets of numbers, data, graphs etc, which they DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 100% FACTUAL OR NOT. And no-one, not even the boffins, know exactly how this is all going to pan out, how long the vaccines will protect people for, what long term side effects etc etc are going to be. Me and mine certainly aint having it, and you yourself have just said you're not, and several others on this site aint, so how exactly does just that one decision to not have a covid vaccine, automatically make us 'anti vaxxers'? Have I called you an anti vaxer? But if the cap fits. . There's absolutely been anti vaxers on this thread spouting a load of bollox as if it facts. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, dogmandont said: Only you can answer that socks as I don't know your stance on the rest. I understand people's reservations about the vaccine as I feel the same but for some is has to be lesser of 2 evils surely. For someone like Keith with health issues I can only see the benefits of the vaccine but it seems somewhere along the line he's charged his mind about it and that would be a travisty if was because of some self proclaimed expert on here spouting half truths and nonsense That would be a shame but I can assure you anything I have said is fact based and researched. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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